Comments on: Who Are the Moral Ones? http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:09:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: andrea http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-453 andrea Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:04:33 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-453 I'd like to see the results if the question "would you support the use of terrorism, i.e. bombings, kidnappings, etc, if it supported your cause?" were asked of the same people who support torture. To me, it's the same attitude, religious zealots who are willing to use pain and fear to get their way. I'd like to see the results if the question "would you support the use of terrorism, i.e. bombings, kidnappings, etc, if it supported your cause?" were asked of the same people who support torture. To me, it's the same attitude, religious zealots who are willing to use pain and fear to get their way.

]]> By: Azkyroth http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-452 Azkyroth Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:00:26 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-452 I imagine that part of it also stems from the fact that any Christian who accepts the concept of Hell already believes that torture of "bad" people is acceptable... That and some of them (one young Catholic woman I know is a sad example of this) have been raised by right-wing-nutjob parents with what one might call a "black and more black" sociopolitical philosophy and have been taught from birth to swallow any position of the Republican party, no matter how self-refuting or untenable, whole. It's kinda the memetic equivalent of kids who are born with AIDS :( (the comparison of HIV and religion is a rather apt one, since religion's memetic complex contains elaborate instructions for disabling the mind's "immune system" of critical thought). Consequently, they tend to wind up unthinkingly accepting ideas like "torture is valid" in addition to ideas like Ann Coulter's view of political dissidents and similar views of environmentalists. I imagine that part of it also stems from the fact that any Christian who accepts the concept of Hell already believes that torture of "bad" people is acceptable...

That and some of them (one young Catholic woman I know is a sad example of this) have been raised by right-wing-nutjob parents with what one might call a "black and more black" sociopolitical philosophy and have been taught from birth to swallow any position of the Republican party, no matter how self-refuting or untenable, whole. It's kinda the memetic equivalent of kids who are born with AIDS :( (the comparison of HIV and religion is a rather apt one, since religion's memetic complex contains elaborate instructions for disabling the mind's "immune system" of critical thought). Consequently, they tend to wind up unthinkingly accepting ideas like "torture is valid" in addition to ideas like Ann Coulter's view of political dissidents and similar views of environmentalists.

]]> By: BlackWizardMagus http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-451 BlackWizardMagus Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:33:27 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/03/who-are-the-moral-ones.html#comment-451 I'm thinking this is more of a correlation than a cause-and-effect scenario. Usually, the very religious are often conservative in most other ways (Christian, especially Christian Protestants, anyway). WASPs are also pro-gun, pro-death penalty, etc. Whether or not you agree with these other positions, there is no doubt that often the "old fashioned" americans are much more for these similar positions. I don't think it's all led by fundamentalists. I think at least part of it is simply because of partisan polarization in this country; if you support one aspect of a political slant, you're pressured to support them all. This is merely my guess, though. I'm thinking this is more of a correlation than a cause-and-effect scenario. Usually, the very religious are often conservative in most other ways (Christian, especially Christian Protestants, anyway). WASPs are also pro-gun, pro-death penalty, etc. Whether or not you agree with these other positions, there is no doubt that often the "old fashioned" americans are much more for these similar positions. I don't think it's all led by fundamentalists. I think at least part of it is simply because of partisan polarization in this country; if you support one aspect of a political slant, you're pressured to support them all. This is merely my guess, though.

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