Comments on: Newsweek Discovers Atheists http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:09:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Dennis http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-34471 Dennis Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:55:50 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-34471 Thats the first time I've heard our culture as full of religious spam, but thats exactly what it is. That made me laugh out loud. Thats the first time I've heard our culture as full of religious spam, but thats exactly what it is. That made me laugh out loud.

]]> By: Padishah http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5809 Padishah Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:17:18 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5809 The Bible was written by men, and men can err. One does not have to believe the entire Bible was written or sanctioned by God to be a Christian. I can understand your friend. Whilst there are many unpleasant passages in the bible, the bears eating the 42 children is by far the most stylish piece in the entire book. The Bible was written by men, and men can err. One does not have to believe the entire Bible was written or sanctioned by God to be a Christian.

I can understand your friend. Whilst there are many unpleasant passages in the bible, the bears eating the 42 children is by far the most stylish piece in the entire book.

]]> By: jake3988 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5800 jake3988 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:19:33 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5800 <i>They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is.</i> Exactly. But why do you believe in a god that condones these actions? I mean, I was a christian but like most christians completely oblivious to the facts. I never read the bible very much except for those silly stories that we get told at 5 years old (like Noah) and they believe them. Because hey, they believe in the Easter Bunny too! I then read it and boy did I get a big awakening. Penn and Teller told me if I read the bible I'd become an atheist. They were correct. So, like before, if I ever do decide to pick up a religion (I don't see a point and I don't care) then it most certainly will not be the christian god. A god that sees fit to punish all that don't belive in him to an eternal damnation is not a loving god. He's an evil vile creature. If a king said 'You pray to me or you'll be burned in a fire' You'll definately think that king is immoral. But when God says it, its perfectly ok. Its not. Then again, a youth minister I know condones the actions of God when he mauls 42 kids for calling Elijah a baldy. That's disturbing and grotesque to say the least that he would ever conceive of supporting such an immoral passage. One of too many. They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is.

Exactly. But why do you believe in a god that condones these actions? I mean, I was a christian but like most christians completely oblivious to the facts. I never read the bible very much except for those silly stories that we get told at 5 years old (like Noah) and they believe them. Because hey, they believe in the Easter Bunny too! I then read it and boy did I get a big awakening. Penn and Teller told me if I read the bible I'd become an atheist. They were correct.

So, like before, if I ever do decide to pick up a religion (I don't see a point and I don't care) then it most certainly will not be the christian god. A god that sees fit to punish all that don't belive in him to an eternal damnation is not a loving god. He's an evil vile creature. If a king said 'You pray to me or you'll be burned in a fire' You'll definately think that king is immoral. But when God says it, its perfectly ok. Its not.

Then again, a youth minister I know condones the actions of God when he mauls 42 kids for calling Elijah a baldy. That's disturbing and grotesque to say the least that he would ever conceive of supporting such an immoral passage. One of too many.

]]> By: Marc Holt http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5788 Marc Holt Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:05:55 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5788 And here's another one that may interest you...same author...http://whiteboysinasia.com/?p=404 And here's another one that may interest you...same author...http://whiteboysinasia.com/?p=404

]]> By: Marc Holt http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5787 Marc Holt Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:03:58 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5787 Imagine if there was no religion. Read this...http://whiteboysinasia.com/?p=412 Imagine if there was no religion. Read this...http://whiteboysinasia.com/?p=412

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5766 Philip Thomas Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:11:36 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5766 Blessings be upon you, then. Blessings be upon you, then.

]]> By: J http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5765 J Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:32:18 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5765 <i>They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is.</i> I did that already: I became an atheist. They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is.

I did that already: I became an atheist.

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5763 Philip Thomas Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:12:32 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5763 jake3988. I am a Christian. The Old Testament and New Testament passages condoning slavery are utterly reprehensible and wrong, like so much of the rest of the Bible. And we Christians should make this clear. At the same time, removing passages from the Bible to produce a more user-friendly version is not something I will do. Because I do not beleive people should be allowed to forget that these passages exist in our sacred texts. They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is. jake3988. I am a Christian. The Old Testament and New Testament passages condoning slavery are utterly reprehensible and wrong, like so much of the rest of the Bible. And we Christians should make this clear. At the same time, removing passages from the Bible to produce a more user-friendly version is not something I will do. Because I do not beleive people should be allowed to forget that these passages exist in our sacred texts. They should confront the evil that lies at the heart of our religion and see it for what it is.

]]> By: Christopher http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5762 Christopher Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:12:03 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5762 One question: if nonbelief is hardly a movement, as Mr. Alder claims, then why does he dedicate an entire article to refuting the claims of nonbelievers? This man really knows how to shoot himself in the foot... One question: if nonbelief is hardly a movement, as Mr. Alder claims, then why does he dedicate an entire article to refuting the claims of nonbelievers?

This man really knows how to shoot himself in the foot...

]]> By: J http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5759 J Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:56:39 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5759 <i>But Dawkins, brilliant as he is, overlooks something any storefront Baptist preacher might have told him. "If there is no God, why be good?" ...That's clever. But millions of Christians and Muslims believe that it was precisely God who turned them away from a life of immorality.</i> But tons of people who believe in God are NOT good. It doesn't matter how religious you are: Everyone sins. Even Christians. And yes, even Christians of your particular sect. A few Oxford-type Christians like C.S. Lewis are even honest enough to admit to this: That faith is precious little guard against personal wrongdoing. In a world where Osama bin Laden, anyone who suggests faith is the antidote to immorality should simply be beaten to death. But Dawkins, brilliant as he is, overlooks something any storefront Baptist preacher might have told him. "If there is no God, why be good?" ...That's clever. But millions of Christians and Muslims believe that it was precisely God who turned them away from a life of immorality.

But tons of people who believe in God are NOT good. It doesn't matter how religious you are: Everyone sins. Even Christians. And yes, even Christians of your particular sect. A few Oxford-type Christians like C.S. Lewis are even honest enough to admit to this: That faith is precious little guard against personal wrongdoing. In a world where Osama bin Laden, anyone who suggests faith is the antidote to immorality should simply be beaten to death.

]]> By: Michael Martine http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5741 Michael Martine Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:36:23 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5741 It is better for atheism that this article was published than if it was not. I agree, though I still see it as baiting, simply because you know Newsweek knows who its audience is. But for many people who will read it online, and who are not so blindly attached to their beliefs, this article may contain the first cogent pro-atheist arguments they will have ever encountered. It is better for atheism that this article was published than if it was not.

I agree, though I still see it as baiting, simply because you know Newsweek knows who its audience is. But for many people who will read it online, and who are not so blindly attached to their beliefs, this article may contain the first cogent pro-atheist arguments they will have ever encountered.

]]> By: jake3988 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5738 jake3988 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:16:46 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/09/newsweek-discovers-atheists.html#comment-5738 Very good job with the blog. First time here and this article was fantastic. Obviously I will add to my list. Ok, now with the critiqing: I very much agree with the assertion of the slavery, et al immorality in the old testament. No christian has EVER given me a response other than: 'We live through salvation. The old testament doesn't apply' Not only is that a lie but it doesn't matter. God won't punish you for it, but its still there as something he holds as an opinion and obviously not something I would like to hold as a belief. Which means, I'm not dismissing the fact that there is a 'god', I really could care less, but I am convinced to show people what a truely vile creature the christian god really is. And the fact of how much pain and suffering organized religion has caused throughout the ages. Very good job with the blog. First time here and this article was fantastic. Obviously I will add to my list.

Ok, now with the critiqing: I very much agree with the assertion of the slavery, et al immorality in the old testament. No christian has EVER given me a response other than: 'We live through salvation. The old testament doesn't apply' Not only is that a lie but it doesn't matter. God won't punish you for it, but its still there as something he holds as an opinion and obviously not something I would like to hold as a belief.

Which means, I'm not dismissing the fact that there is a 'god', I really could care less, but I am convinced to show people what a truely vile creature the christian god really is. And the fact of how much pain and suffering organized religion has caused throughout the ages.

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