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Setting the Record Straight

Allow me to be absolutely clear about this:

I am an atheist. That means I do not believe in any gods. I am not just an "aYahwehist", lacking belief only in the god of the ancient Hebrews, or an "anAllahist", lacking belief only in the god of the Muslims. The set of gods in which I do not believe is not limited to the anthropomorphic ones that look and act like humans, nor is it limited to the set of gods believed in by fundamentalists who take literally every word of their respective scriptures, nor is it limited to gods invented in the 20th century or after. The set of gods in which I do not believe includes all gods, of whatever description, that are, ever have been, or ever might be imagined by human beings. I treat them all alike, and disbelieve in them all equally. Unless some substantial evidence for any particular one of them is discovered, I consider them all equally unproven, and equally probable not to exist.

I bring this up because the Newsweek/Washington Post blog On Faith has recently seen a conversation in which four separate and prominent theist columnists made exactly the same mistake: assuming that the only god in which atheists disbelieve is the anthropomorphic, fundamentalist type of deity whose followers have been experiencing a resurgence in the past few decades, or that atheism exists solely as a response to this movement.

Here follow the contenders for the hall of shame. Anglican bishop Nicholas Wright:

...fervent Christian belief has often been associated in recent years with a particular kind of politics, and atheism has looked increasingly an attractive option if belief looks as if it’s driving you towards neo-conservative political beliefs... I suspect there have been quite a few who have been only too happy to make the equation between belief and neo-conservatism and to be happy about rejecting both, and at the same time.

Columnist Zalman Schachter-Shalomi:

One of the reasons that atheism is on the rise is because the notions that people have about God are primitive and backward.

...Once it happened that I attended a session led by a teacher who said: "My son asked me if there was a God. I told him that there was no God and he was relieved". He turned to me with a challenge waiting for me to refute him. I just said: "Sir! The God you do not believe in I do not believe in either."

Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz:

What happened in more recent years is that the growth of religious fundamentalism created a counter-reaction in the U.S., a strengthening of trends and ideas – many of them quite old ideas – that have become, in certain groups, a la mode.

Episcopal bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori:

I would want to begin any such conversation by asking, "tell me about what kind of God you don’t believe in." There are lots of varieties of divinity in which I don’t believe, either.

The current vogue in atheism, if real, has a lot to do with the diminished understandings of God promulgated by some believers.

Can we please get this straight? Atheists do not believe in any gods. It is not just the "old man with white beard sitting on cloud throwing lightning bolts" god in which we disbelieve (the silliness of which, as Richard Dawkins brilliantly points out, is brought up usually to distract from the fact that "what the speaker really believes is not a whole lot less silly"). We also disbelieve in gods that are held to be pure love, pure beauty, pure wisdom, or whatever other concept is currently in vogue among theologians. Both those types of gods are equally unsupported by evidence and equally improbable. (Concepts such as love and beauty certainly exist, but I do not think the believers who speak of God in those terms mean to imply that God is simply a concept, which is an idea that atheists could certainly agree with.)

Nor are we atheists solely because of the "diminished understandings" of God propagated by fundamentalists. Schori, Wright and their fellow columnists do not have any more evidence for their conception of God than the fundamentalists have for theirs, and that is why we are atheists - the continuing and pervasive inability of any theist to offer convincing evidence for the existence of whatever supernatural being they believe in.

To the people in this article and others, allow me to assure you that I am not an atheist just because of the loathsome conceptions of God perpetuated by fundamentalists. You can take my word for that. I am well aware of the less bloodthirsty, less anthropomorphic, more loving, more compassionate versions of God you promote. I do not believe in those either. They all fail on the same points: the question of why we do not see clear evidence for such a being; the question of why that being would not act to prevent evil and human suffering; the question of why there is so much religious confusion, disagreement, and schism; and many more.

I suspect that these people's confusion stems from one basic, important point: although atheists do not exist solely as a reaction to fundamentalists, their increasing power in recent years has given additional importance to our cause and made it far more important to stand up and speak out against the evils inevitably caused by untrammeled, dogmatic faith. The continuing threat of Islamic terrorism, the rise of theocratic Christian nationalism, the bloodshed and suffering caused all around the world by false beliefs - all these threats to humanity's existence and well-being have inspired many atheists (including this one) to come out of the closet and offer a dissenting voice of reason. Seeing the freethought movement arise and gain strength in response to the dangers of fundamentalism, some believers have erroneously concluded that it was caused by fundamentalism. In fact, we have been here all along (as books like Susan Jacoby's Freethinkers chronicle).

To these believers and others who would make the same argument, I have this to say: If you think that we are atheists only because we are unaware of your conception of God (an argument, ironically, that many fundamentalists make also), then make your case. Present your version of God and explain why it offers superior reasons to believe than other versions, and we will consider it fairly, as we always have done. I do not think it will possess any better evidence in its favor than the many others I have seen, but this is your chance to convince me otherwise. And more importantly, if you dislike fundamentalists' giving your faith a bad name, then fight back against them. The world is in very real danger right now due to their excesses. If you dislike atheists pointing that out, then work with us to end this threat and set the human race back on a path of sanity.

December 31, 2006, 12:55 pm • Posted in: The RotundaCommentOptions

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I'm glad you brought up Jacoby's excellent book. It is one of the reasons I am getting tired of hearing about this so-called "New Atheism." As I've recently said, the only thing new about it is that the media has suddenly decided that we are newsworthy.

One of the reasons that atheism is on the rise is because the notions that people have about God are primitive and backward.

"Ah, but in the year 2006, after about 8,000 years of recorded human history, we can all be relieved that humans have FINALLY gotten religion right. What a tremendous relief. Yes, folks, billions of humans have come and gone on this Earth, but I, Zalman Schachter-Shalomi, am wiser than all and have finally figured it out."

"Not, of course, that this will let anyone off the hook. I'm still going to demand that we all go to church/synagogue/mosque and abstain from the more fun and free-spirited kinds of fucking and enjoyment. No, God may just be a nebulous concept, but you'd better believe He gets pissed off by certain things you do while naked. Or if you feel like sleeping in on Sunday mornings."

"But don't worry: I'm sure my new brand of more enlightened thinking will have wide reception among the world's hundreds of millions of dogmatic believers and cause them to cease their faith-based warmongery immediately."

(Whew; almost OD'd on my own sarcasm there)

What happened in more recent years is that the growth of religious fundamentalism created a counter-reaction in the U.S., a strengthening of trends and ideas – many of them quite old ideas – that have become, in certain groups, a la mode.

Yeah, 'cause if you can describe your ideological foes with a French adverb, then you can pretty much dismiss their arguments right? Nothing like a bit of conflation of the worst stereotypes of intellectuals, gays, and the French to get Americans to hate a group of people is there, eh Rabbi?

And then again, there's the deployment of the "atheism is old" meme. Um, pardon me Rabbi, but you're an officiant of a religion with historical roots that go 7,000 years back and which you would probably assert are as old as time itself. Isn't it the absolute height of richness for you to criticize someone else's belief system--rightly or wrongly--as being "old" (and therefore false or "over")? Do then you agree with that "B.C." cartoon that showed a menorah transmuting into a cross, suggesting Judaism had been superseded by Christianity?

If not, then let's have a little less casual talk about whose belief system is "old", shall we?

...who one earth are you addressing?

I assume from the context that J's comment was an open letter to one of the columnists I criticized in my post.

That's the part that confused me; it almost sounded from his writing as though he was unaware that the pieces in question were quoted from someone else by you.

J, your numbers are off, though the principle is correct.

Written records go back about 5000 years, at least those that we can interpret.

Interestingly, all the older religions that we have record of are polytheist -- and religions dismissed as false by most followers of Abrahamic religions.

And as to Judaism, it is about 2600 years old, at least if one dates from King Josiah's high priest Hilkiah's "discovery" of the "book of the Law" in the Jerusalem Temple. It commanded worship of the One True God at his One True Temple, and was likely an early version of the Book of Deuteronomy; its "discovery", as Saturday Night Live's Church Lady might say, was very conveeeeeeenient.

The first outside mention of their ethnicity was from Pharaoh Merneptah's scribes, who in 1200 BCE carved in his Victory Stele that "Israel is barren; its seed is no more." Outside sources do not reappear until Assyrians start mentioning a "land of Omri" around 800 BCE. But there's a tantalizing archeological hint to the effect that pig bones start becoming rare in the Israelite kingdom areas around 1000 BCE, as if they were then starting to believe in the wickedness of eating pork back then.

That reminds me of a various curious apologetic argument: that Jews being a long-lived ethnicity implies the inspiration of the Bible. But there are longer-lived ones that have survived to the present day: Greeks and Chinese.

While Merneptah's scribes were carving the records of their triumphs, Mycenaean Greek scribes were busy keeping records of their palaces' property and Shang-Dynasty Chinese scribes were writing on oracle bones.

So does that mean that we ought to worship Zeus or the Yellow Emperor?

And there are arguably longer-lived ones, like the Pharaonic Egyptian one, that are now gone.

J, that was great. Saves me from having to put up a similar post:)

Part of the problem though is that religious liberals are demanding recognition for concepts of God that rob the term of all meaning. Here's Quinn:

I believe in God and I believe in the Divine. Here is what God is for me: Goodness and love and beauty, humility, kindness and grace, generosity, and the human spirit... I believe there is God in having fun, in laughter, in dancing, in having sexual intimacy with the person you love, in sharing a meal with wine and candlelight with people you care about. There are times when I feel a genuine ecstasy over something of beauty or love or an act of kindness. There is certainly God in my feelings of love for my child, my husband, my family and my friends.

People like Quinn could make a lot of noise about "Well Mr. Ebonmuse, you don't deny *my* God, do you?" But of course, they would be silly for doing so.

Yes, I saw that piece. It's a prime example of how many religious liberals are atheists in all but name, having watered down the definition of God to a point where it is no longer clear what, if anything, their belief means.

I, of course, also believe in "goodness and love and beauty, humility, kindness and grace, generosity, and the human spirit". However, I don't believe that any of those attributes are personified in a supernatural being. They exist as concepts in the minds of humanity that are demonstrated by our actions toward each other. If Sally Quinn agrees with me, then she should call herself what she is - an atheist - and stop using a word that can only be employed in this context by eviscerating it of meaning.

if there is "god" in feeling good, then every psychopath feels "god" too when they get their jollies harming something. Most Christians also forget that God "himself" says that he brings evil too.

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