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	<title>Comments on: Witch Hysteria Is Alive and Well</title>
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		<title>By: Ebonmuse</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12985</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebonmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder if pedophilia has become something like witchcraft in our society — an especially heinous offense. However deplorable pedophilia may be, I wonder if much of the response to it goes beyond all reason.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Believe it or not, I was strongly considering a discussion of that very comparison in this post, before I ultimately decided that the issue would be better served by a separate post of its own. 

I think it's a good comparison in that both witchcraft and pedophilia have been considered crimes so serious that people didn't think we even needed evidence to prove the guilt of someone accused of either of them. I had a chance to watch &lt;i&gt;Indictment&lt;/i&gt; late last year, a fictionalized portrayal of the famous McMartin preschool case. It was astonishing how easily hysteria was drummed up in response to the mere possibility that children had been sexually abused, and how that hysteria prevented virtually everyone in the community from seeing the obvious evidentiary holes in the abuse story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder if pedophilia has become something like witchcraft in our society — an especially heinous offense. However deplorable pedophilia may be, I wonder if much of the response to it goes beyond all reason.</p></blockquote>
<p>Believe it or not, I was strongly considering a discussion of that very comparison in this post, before I ultimately decided that the issue would be better served by a separate post of its own. </p>
<p>I think it's a good comparison in that both witchcraft and pedophilia have been considered crimes so serious that people didn't think we even needed evidence to prove the guilt of someone accused of either of them. I had a chance to watch <i>Indictment</i> late last year, a fictionalized portrayal of the famous McMartin preschool case. It was astonishing how easily hysteria was drummed up in response to the mere possibility that children had been sexually abused, and how that hysteria prevented virtually everyone in the community from seeing the obvious evidentiary holes in the abuse story.</p>
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		<title>By: lpetrich</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12958</link>
		<dc:creator>lpetrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if pedophilia has become something like witchcraft in our society -- an especially heinous offense. However deplorable pedophilia may be, I wonder if much of the response to it goes beyond all reason.

And I wouldn't call the idea of sorcery having real effects "theist" nonsense -- superstitious nonsense maybe, something metaphysically related to theism perhaps, but not necessarily theist nonsense. I've added the qualifier "having real effects" to distinguish between practicing sorcery and sorcery successfully doing something. Like the distinction between placing a picture of Mother Teresa on one's belly and doing so successfully curing stomach cancer inside.

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I think that it is worth noting that many "primitive" people had believed that nearly all sickness and death is due to malicious sorcery. Travelers in Africa had noted how common it was for Africans to do "witch smelling" after people's deaths. These people had maintained belief in the sorcery theory alongside of awareness of other causes, like a collapsing granary or being attacked by an elephant that one was hunting. Of course, a sorcery apologist could claim that the sorcerer had cast a spell of "Sic 'em!" on that elephant.

So I wonder if there is something psychological involved, like whatever it is that causes some people to invent and believe in conspiracy theories.

It may be due to a tendency to attribute intention even where no intention is present, a theory proposed for the origin of religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if pedophilia has become something like witchcraft in our society -- an especially heinous offense. However deplorable pedophilia may be, I wonder if much of the response to it goes beyond all reason.</p>
<p>And I wouldn't call the idea of sorcery having real effects "theist" nonsense -- superstitious nonsense maybe, something metaphysically related to theism perhaps, but not necessarily theist nonsense. I've added the qualifier "having real effects" to distinguish between practicing sorcery and sorcery successfully doing something. Like the distinction between placing a picture of Mother Teresa on one's belly and doing so successfully curing stomach cancer inside.</p>
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<p>I think that it is worth noting that many "primitive" people had believed that nearly all sickness and death is due to malicious sorcery. Travelers in Africa had noted how common it was for Africans to do "witch smelling" after people's deaths. These people had maintained belief in the sorcery theory alongside of awareness of other causes, like a collapsing granary or being attacked by an elephant that one was hunting. Of course, a sorcery apologist could claim that the sorcerer had cast a spell of "Sic 'em!" on that elephant.</p>
<p>So I wonder if there is something psychological involved, like whatever it is that causes some people to invent and believe in conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>It may be due to a tendency to attribute intention even where no intention is present, a theory proposed for the origin of religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12939</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The child's mother wouldn't, by any chance, happen to have been wearing anything with a cotton-polyester blend, would she?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The child's mother wouldn't, by any chance, happen to have been wearing anything with a cotton-polyester blend, would she?</p>
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		<title>By: Ebonmuse</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12935</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebonmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently saw the documentary &lt;i&gt;Jesus Camp&lt;/i&gt; (and intend to post a review soon). In one scene, a Christian fundamentalist mother advises her child that Harry Potter would have been stoned to death if he had been alive in biblical times. From the tone of her voice, it was hard not to get the impression that she was nostalgic for those bygone days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently saw the documentary <i>Jesus Camp</i> (and intend to post a review soon). In one scene, a Christian fundamentalist mother advises her child that Harry Potter would have been stoned to death if he had been alive in biblical times. From the tone of her voice, it was hard not to get the impression that she was nostalgic for those bygone days.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12923</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One does not need to be living in Africa as a member of a "stone age tribe" to be a believer in the perils of Witchcraft. &lt;a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2007/01/26/0128gwxmallory.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Laura Mallory&lt;/a&gt;, a resident of Georgia, is currently trying to have &lt;i&gt;Harry Potter&lt;/i&gt; books removed from elementary schools for the reason they support Witchcraft. She brings up the usual tripe about how the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and that removing God and prayer from public school has caused all the social pathologies we see in schools today, from the Columbine massacre to teenage pregnancies, language crudeness, and violence. &lt;i&gt;Sigh.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One does not need to be living in Africa as a member of a "stone age tribe" to be a believer in the perils of Witchcraft. <a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2007/01/26/0128gwxmallory.html" rel="nofollow">Laura Mallory</a>, a resident of Georgia, is currently trying to have <i>Harry Potter</i> books removed from elementary schools for the reason they support Witchcraft. She brings up the usual tripe about how the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and that removing God and prayer from public school has caused all the social pathologies we see in schools today, from the Columbine massacre to teenage pregnancies, language crudeness, and violence. <i>Sigh.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12921</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The belief in "witches" is just more theist nonsense. "Suffer not a witch to live". Anytime you can blame someone or thing i.e. Satan for your problems, it allows you to keep up the lie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And get rid of people you don't like in a humiliating fashion that will slander their reputation in the community (and perhaps their families' as well) forever even above and beyond their deaths, leave you with no risk of reprisal (as opposed to bashing their heads in with a hoe), and maybe let you get your hands on some of their stuff.  This certainly seemed to be a major motivation for accusations of witchcraft in medieval Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The belief in "witches" is just more theist nonsense. "Suffer not a witch to live". Anytime you can blame someone or thing i.e. Satan for your problems, it allows you to keep up the lie.</p></blockquote>
<p>And get rid of people you don't like in a humiliating fashion that will slander their reputation in the community (and perhaps their families' as well) forever even above and beyond their deaths, leave you with no risk of reprisal (as opposed to bashing their heads in with a hoe), and maybe let you get your hands on some of their stuff.  This certainly seemed to be a major motivation for accusations of witchcraft in medieval Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12914</link>
		<dc:creator>andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The belief in "witches" is just more theist nonsense. "Suffer not a witch to live". Anytime you can blame someone or thing i.e. Satan for your problems, it allows you to keep up the lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The belief in "witches" is just more theist nonsense. "Suffer not a witch to live". Anytime you can blame someone or thing i.e. Satan for your problems, it allows you to keep up the lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Africa today is pretty much like Northern Europe was after the Romans left - iron age tribes left with the concept of civilization but still just iron age tribes. It took a long time for that concept to eventually bear fruit. The problem in Africa is that they have modern weapons to fight their tribal battles and huge amounts of foreign aid for the, in many cases, corrupt leaders to stash away in their Swiss bank accounts at the expense of the people they're supposed to be looking after.

I think that only time will sort out Africa's problems. In the mean time we can only hope that the Western democracies don't go the way of the Roman Empire and another Dark Age fall over the Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Africa today is pretty much like Northern Europe was after the Romans left - iron age tribes left with the concept of civilization but still just iron age tribes. It took a long time for that concept to eventually bear fruit. The problem in Africa is that they have modern weapons to fight their tribal battles and huge amounts of foreign aid for the, in many cases, corrupt leaders to stash away in their Swiss bank accounts at the expense of the people they're supposed to be looking after.</p>
<p>I think that only time will sort out Africa's problems. In the mean time we can only hope that the Western democracies don't go the way of the Roman Empire and another Dark Age fall over the Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveC</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/01/witch-hysteria.html#comment-12852</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm currently reading Dark Star Safari, by Paul Theroux, (I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it) who taught in Malawi in the sixties, and revisited africa, making an overland journey from Cairo to Capetown in 2000-something (I forget the year.)  It's pretty interesing.  He talks about how things have changed since he was there in the sixties (mostly for the worse) and about what impact aid groups are having, etc. How to "fix" Africa is one hell of a hard question.  Anyway, it's a pretty good book, check it out if that sort of thing interests you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm currently reading Dark Star Safari, by Paul Theroux, (I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it) who taught in Malawi in the sixties, and revisited africa, making an overland journey from Cairo to Capetown in 2000-something (I forget the year.)  It's pretty interesing.  He talks about how things have changed since he was there in the sixties (mostly for the worse) and about what impact aid groups are having, etc. How to "fix" Africa is one hell of a hard question.  Anyway, it's a pretty good book, check it out if that sort of thing interests you.</p>
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