Comments on: Advice to a Christian http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:16:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Ziddina http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-44248 Ziddina Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:19:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-44248 Uhm, "CuriousToSeeOpinions", you can use condoms to keep your scrotum intact. Or maybe she could have her tubes tied. I had mine done at 30, and never regretted it! Uhm, "CuriousToSeeOpinions", you can use condoms to keep your scrotum intact. Or maybe she could have her tubes tied. I had mine done at 30, and never regretted it!

]]> By: Manning http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-43166 Manning Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:02:20 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-43166 InvitationToVisit: http://christian-birthcontrol.angelcities.com/index.html Online examination of a Christian's God-given family-planning right (Christians have a right to use birth control). InvitationToVisit:

http://christian-birthcontrol.angelcities.com/index.html

Online examination of a Christian's God-given family-planning right (Christians have a right to use birth control).

]]> By: Jennifer A. Burdoo http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-42799 Jennifer A. Burdoo Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:54 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-42799 If I was still a believer, I would point out that even if a vasectomy WERE a sin, it would still be a good idea, and it would not necessarily be the wrong decision. God doesn't care about sinning, he cares about US, and there are plenty of examples in Jewish history alone in which Jews sinned for good reasons (usually survival -- think about those that were forced to become Christians. Should they have refused and seen their children murdered instead?). The Talmud even encourages us to take on duties or positions in which we would have no choice but to sin -- for example its suggestion that it is only right and proper for a Jew to join his homeland's military. Other than Israel, the US and possibly Russia, I'm unaware of any military that offers kosher rations. Ergo, the Talmud is encouraging the sin of breaking kashrut in exchange for -- presto -- the much more important duty and honor of serving one's country. I am glad to see Contraskeptic come to his senses, at least a little. Perhaps I'll go and comment. If I was still a believer, I would point out that even if a vasectomy WERE a sin, it would still be a good idea, and it would not necessarily be the wrong decision. God doesn't care about sinning, he cares about US, and there are plenty of examples in Jewish history alone in which Jews sinned for good reasons (usually survival -- think about those that were forced to become Christians. Should they have refused and seen their children murdered instead?). The Talmud even encourages us to take on duties or positions in which we would have no choice but to sin -- for example its suggestion that it is only right and proper for a Jew to join his homeland's military. Other than Israel, the US and possibly Russia, I'm unaware of any military that offers kosher rations. Ergo, the Talmud is encouraging the sin of breaking kashrut in exchange for -- presto -- the much more important duty and honor of serving one's country.

I am glad to see Contraskeptic come to his senses, at least a little. Perhaps I'll go and comment.

]]> By: maurice http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-40199 maurice Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:18:35 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-40199 Well I had my tubes done after years of saying no. I feel it has been great for me not having to worry about more kids as I am 54 with a 16 year old daughter. I recon it does depend on how old one is to take this step. I do wish I had done it earlier. Its a bit step but worked for me. Well I had my tubes done after years of saying no. I feel it has been great for me not having to worry about more kids as I am 54 with a 16 year old daughter. I recon it does depend on how old one is to take this step. I do wish I had done it earlier. Its a bit step but worked for me.

]]> By: Adele http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-39772 Adele Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:20:10 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-39772 CuriousToSeeOpinions - you are not the selfish one, your girlfriend is. Inform her that while she may have two children, you at only 30 have none and would like to keep your options open. As many have said above, 11 months is far too early to consider having a life-altering surgery for a woman you are not even sure you'll spend your life with. If she refuses to budge, then it may be time to end your relationship. CuriousToSeeOpinions - you are not the selfish one, your girlfriend is. Inform her that while she may have two children, you at only 30 have none and would like to keep your options open. As many have said above, 11 months is far too early to consider having a life-altering surgery for a woman you are not even sure you'll spend your life with.

If she refuses to budge, then it may be time to end your relationship.

]]> By: Rosemary Lyndall Wemm http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-37388 Rosemary Lyndall Wemm Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:26:56 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-37388 The question no-one asked: What kind of a sex life did Joseph and Mary, mother of the illegitimate Jesus of Nazareth, have? Were they celebate, as the Catholic Church suggests? If so, what kind of "Catholic" marriage was that? Perhaps this would account for the fact that their son went off with a bunch of guys and never had a family of his own or accepted responsibility for anyone's children. How is it that the conservative Christain's emphasis on "family values" is so poorly reflected in their deities and saints? The question no-one asked:

What kind of a sex life did Joseph and Mary, mother of the illegitimate Jesus of Nazareth, have? Were they celebate, as the Catholic Church suggests? If so, what kind of "Catholic" marriage was that? Perhaps this would account for the fact that their son went off with a bunch of guys and never had a family of his own or accepted responsibility for anyone's children. How is it that the conservative Christain's emphasis on "family values" is so poorly reflected in their deities and saints?

]]> By: Virginia http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-37146 Virginia Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:43:27 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-37146 Most Christians I know, have placed God higher than most because this is something they committed at a very very young age, and accumulation of supposedly "religious/spiritual" experiences simply hardened the conviction. To get Contraskeptic to heed your advice is to force him to undermine all those experiences he had -- and that is very very shakening to the core of his person -- human fears this kind of self-doubt, perhaps often enough to put their loved ones at a secondary position. Most Christians I know, have placed God higher than most because this is something they committed at a very very young age, and accumulation of supposedly "religious/spiritual" experiences simply hardened the conviction. To get Contraskeptic to heed your advice is to force him to undermine all those experiences he had -- and that is very very shakening to the core of his person -- human fears this kind of self-doubt, perhaps often enough to put their loved ones at a secondary position.

]]> By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35889 Ebonmuse Thu, 22 May 2008 11:45:38 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35889 Thanks for the update, TJ. That's good news, I think - I sincerely hope it will resolve the issues that had come between them. Thanks for the update, TJ. That's good news, I think - I sincerely hope it will resolve the issues that had come between them.

]]> By: TJ http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35844 TJ Wed, 21 May 2008 14:00:39 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35844 Huh. He <a href="http://contraskeptic.blogspot.com/2008/02/end-of-story.html" rel="nofollow">got the vasectomy</a> earlier this year. I guess common sense and the realization that he was destroying his family finally won out. Huh. He got the vasectomy earlier this year. I guess common sense and the realization that he was destroying his family finally won out.

]]> By: Polly http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35125 Polly Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:02:24 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35125 Well, if you want opinions from random strangers, then I fill the bill nicely. You are NOT being selfish! Repeat after me, "Hands off my scrotum!" If she's pressuring you to make major, life-long decisions after 11 months tell her to go to Hell (fun little township in Michigan). Anyone who has the gall to spout ultimata about something like this is a control freak and you should get away from her as quickly as possible. Don't progress, don't pass "Go", and don't collect $200. Just run. 30 is young and still a little too early to decide that you definitely never want to have children of your own, EVER. (I, myself, have no children after almost a decade of marriage. I don't really care for rug-rats, but I will probably give in (to my wife's wish) and have one in the near future, biology allowing.) Well, if you want opinions from random strangers, then I fill the bill nicely.

You are NOT being selfish! Repeat after me, "Hands off my scrotum!"

If she's pressuring you to make major, life-long decisions after 11 months tell her to go to Hell (fun little township in Michigan). Anyone who has the gall to spout ultimata about something like this is a control freak and you should get away from her as quickly as possible. Don't progress, don't pass "Go", and don't collect $200. Just run.
30 is young and still a little too early to decide that you definitely never want to have children of your own, EVER.

(I, myself, have no children after almost a decade of marriage. I don't really care for rug-rats, but I will probably give in (to my wife's wish) and have one in the near future, biology allowing.)

]]> By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35094 Ebonmuse Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:47:09 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35094 Well, you asked for opinions, so here's mine: I don't think it's inherently unreasonable for one partner in a relationship to ask the other to be sterilized, if both are agreed that they don't want any more children. However, I do think that 11 months is extremely early to ask such a thing, especially given that you're only 30. Who knows if you're going to be with this woman for the rest of your life? If you end up with someone else, or if you two stay together and later decide you want children, this may not be reversible. I wouldn't even consider it until a much more advanced stage of the relationship. Well, you asked for opinions, so here's mine: I don't think it's inherently unreasonable for one partner in a relationship to ask the other to be sterilized, if both are agreed that they don't want any more children. However, I do think that 11 months is extremely early to ask such a thing, especially given that you're only 30. Who knows if you're going to be with this woman for the rest of your life? If you end up with someone else, or if you two stay together and later decide you want children, this may not be reversible. I wouldn't even consider it until a much more advanced stage of the relationship.

]]> By: CuriousToSeeOpinions http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35091 CuriousToSeeOpinions Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:39:07 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/02/advice-to-a-christian.html#comment-35091 lastly...am I being selfish? lastly...am I being selfish?

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