Comments on: The Tomb of Jesus? http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:09:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: aswe http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18132 aswe Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:25:15 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18132 The 600 to 1 odds they quoted actually don't make it all that unlikely, if I heard another part of the story properly, that they've found nearly a thousand of these tombs in the general area over the years. Honestly, "the names match" is the strongest evidence they could possibly come up with on one of these speculative endevours. The 600 to 1 odds they quoted actually don't make it all that unlikely, if I heard another part of the story properly, that they've found nearly a thousand of these tombs in the general area over the years.

Honestly, "the names match" is the strongest evidence they could possibly come up with on one of these speculative endevours.

]]> By: Blue Gal http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18086 Blue Gal Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:53:25 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18086 I just can't believe this story has been going on all week without the involvement of Geraldo. I just can't believe this story has been going on all week without the involvement of Geraldo.

]]> By: Erich Vieth http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18056 Erich Vieth Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:28:02 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-18056 Good article. Here’s another irony: When it comes to events that are ancient it is the doubts that fade away and it is the hazy (and sometimes self-contradictory) facts that become ever more certain, at least for those who want to believe. Numerous Christian apologists have (rightfully) attacked the claims of this documentary. When they are finished dealing with this threat, though, they take off their Skeptic Hats to willingly embrace the even more incredible claims of their own religions. For another angle on this irony, check out this article by mathematician John Paulos: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/print?id=99554 Good article.

Here’s another irony: When it comes to events that are ancient it is the doubts that fade away and it is the hazy (and sometimes self-contradictory) facts that become ever more certain, at least for those who want to believe. Numerous Christian apologists have (rightfully) attacked the claims of this documentary. When they are finished dealing with this threat, though, they take off their Skeptic Hats to willingly embrace the even more incredible claims of their own religions.

For another angle on this irony, check out this article by mathematician John Paulos: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/print?id=99554

]]> By: Terrence http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17998 Terrence Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:16:00 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17998 Whoa, it's early, but EVERYBODY is missing the point-- if you are a true believer, the truth or falsity of a production like this should not matter a damn. If you are a true believer and you get all gooey about stuff like this, may I ask: WHY???? It should not matter a whit. If your fable is true, it's true. If no bones are ever found, so what. If bones are found, so what...................... Whoa, it's early, but EVERYBODY is missing the point-- if you are a true believer, the truth or falsity of a production like this should not matter a damn. If you are a true believer and you get all gooey about stuff like this, may I ask: WHY???? It should not matter a whit. If your fable is true, it's true. If no bones are ever found, so what. If bones are found, so what......................

]]> By: Polly http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17969 Polly Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:20:57 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17969 Shawn-Funny you should mention "Idiocracy." I find it an effective antidote to my optimism about the future of our society. Every time I see some stupid reality TV show stunt or watch someone miss a basic question about history or science, the refrain of "OW, My balls!" rings in my ears. "It would finally put those lame-brained theologians and preachers out of a job! " Although true believers would NOT rethink their views, such a discovery would serve to CONTAIN the problem. It would be all but guaranteed that the rate of future dupes...uh, er...converts would be at a bare minimum of lame-brains. Hmmm, but then again those might be the most dangerous. Left in concentrated form, without their more cerebral counterparts to dilute their strength, they may be an even more effective weapon against civilization, prone to violence and a theocratic bend per the OT scriptures. Take away reasonable doubt and you still have plenty of the unreasonable left to fill the void. I think the "discovery" is just sensationalism and nothing more. There's no money in digging up anonymous ossuaries. Shawn-Funny you should mention "Idiocracy." I find it an effective antidote to my optimism about the future of our society. Every time I see some stupid reality TV show stunt or watch someone miss a basic question about history or science, the refrain of "OW, My balls!" rings in my ears.

"It would finally put those lame-brained theologians and preachers out of a job! "

Although true believers would NOT rethink their views, such a discovery would serve to CONTAIN the problem. It would be all but guaranteed that the rate of future dupes...uh, er...converts would be at a bare minimum of lame-brains.
Hmmm, but then again those might be the most dangerous. Left in concentrated form, without their more cerebral counterparts to dilute their strength, they may be an even more effective weapon against civilization, prone to violence and a theocratic bend per the OT scriptures. Take away reasonable doubt and you still have plenty of the unreasonable left to fill the void.

I think the "discovery" is just sensationalism and nothing more. There's no money in digging up anonymous ossuaries.

]]> By: Shawn Smith http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17965 Shawn Smith Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:18:18 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17965 Badger3k, You seem to believe that The Discovery Channel cares one whit about science and/or accuracy. In my opinion, that is an incorrect assumption. The key thing to know about The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, and all their spin offs, is that they are entertainment businesses. Their customers are the advertisers who "support" the shows, and possibly the Cable and Satellite providers (Comcast, Adelphia, Cox, DirectTV, etc.) who pay a small subscription fee. Their product is your eyeballs, which, judging from your rant about "The Exodus Decoded," they already have. Why would they change their content when it appears to work for them? Is this a troubling indicator of our society? I don't know. When we see so much truth in movies like <i>Office Space</i> and <i>Idiocracy</i>, I do get a bit depressed, but heck, they are only movies. Badger3k,

You seem to believe that The Discovery Channel cares one whit about science and/or accuracy. In my opinion, that is an incorrect assumption. The key thing to know about The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, and all their spin offs, is that they are entertainment businesses. Their customers are the advertisers who "support" the shows, and possibly the Cable and Satellite providers (Comcast, Adelphia, Cox, DirectTV, etc.) who pay a small subscription fee. Their product is your eyeballs, which, judging from your rant about "The Exodus Decoded," they already have. Why would they change their content when it appears to work for them?

Is this a troubling indicator of our society? I don't know. When we see so much truth in movies like Office Space and Idiocracy, I do get a bit depressed, but heck, they are only movies.

]]> By: Badger3k http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17962 Badger3k Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:42:41 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17962 I forget the website, but one post had the original discoverer of the tomb saying he had dated it to the late 1st or early 2nd century ce, making the whole claim of this "Geraldo the Archaeologist" show a little misleading (to be polite). Considering what a crock-of-unscholarly-shit "The Exodus Decoded" was (I mean how many distortions and lies can you put into one show?), expect more of the same. I wrote the Discovery Channel and complained about this piece of sensationalist garbage and challenged them to have some real experts on after the show to discuss the flaws and errors in it - that would be real discovery. I forget the website, but one post had the original discoverer of the tomb saying he had dated it to the late 1st or early 2nd century ce, making the whole claim of this "Geraldo the Archaeologist" show a little misleading (to be polite). Considering what a crock-of-unscholarly-shit "The Exodus Decoded" was (I mean how many distortions and lies can you put into one show?), expect more of the same. I wrote the Discovery Channel and complained about this piece of sensationalist garbage and challenged them to have some real experts on after the show to discuss the flaws and errors in it - that would be real discovery.

]]> By: Dave http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17961 Dave Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:22:53 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17961 Sadly, you're being naive, Christopher. No amount of proof that the Bible is mythology will ever truly be enough to convince the faithful. To whit: <blockquote> “Every Christian knows that Jesus the son of God and man died and rose again on Easter Sunday,” a New York Archdiocese spokesman, Joseph Zwilling, told The New York Post on Sunday. “No alleged DNA test or Hollywood film is going to change that.” </blockquote> Sadly, you're being naive, Christopher. No amount of proof that the Bible is mythology will ever truly be enough to convince the faithful. To whit:

“Every Christian knows that Jesus the son of God and man died and rose again on Easter Sunday,” a New York Archdiocese spokesman, Joseph Zwilling, told The New York Post on Sunday. “No alleged DNA test or Hollywood film is going to change that.”

]]> By: Christopher http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17958 Christopher Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:59:24 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17958 While I have reason to doubt that the claims made about this tomb are true, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if they were: It would finally put those lame-brained theologians and preachers out of a job! While I have reason to doubt that the claims made about this tomb are true, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if they were: It would finally put those lame-brained theologians and preachers out of a job!

]]> By: Will E. http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17926 Will E. Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:01:35 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/03/the-tomb-of-jesus.html#comment-17926 It all just sounds like an overly elaborate "In Search of..." episode, or a modern Shroud of Turin, or whatshisname, von Daniken, all that '70s pulp nonsense which so many have seem to forgotten. Who cares, who cares, who cares. It all just sounds like an overly elaborate "In Search of..." episode, or a modern Shroud of Turin, or whatshisname, von Daniken, all that '70s pulp nonsense which so many have seem to forgotten. Who cares, who cares, who cares.

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