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	<title>Comments on: Through a Glass, Brightly</title>
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		<title>By: theistscientist</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/04/through-a-glass-brightly.html#comment-29766</link>
		<dc:creator>theistscientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here, bully good argument brother randall ! My best friend is a microbiology professor at Johns Hopkins, he is a devout evangelical Christian, he is a brilliant scientist also and has helped find medicines that many of us use. He is fascinated with the minutiae of the biological and physical world. He is also a theistic evolutionist and he says in his opinion, the hand of God is written all over the microbiological world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here, bully good argument brother randall ! My best friend is a microbiology professor at Johns Hopkins, he is a devout evangelical Christian, he is a brilliant scientist also and has helped find medicines that many of us use. He is fascinated with the minutiae of the biological and physical world. He is also a theistic evolutionist and he says in his opinion, the hand of God is written all over the microbiological world.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/04/through-a-glass-brightly.html#comment-29765</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does the post assume that faith requires freedom from questioning?  Faith is not something that we are not called to question; if anything, it's something we ought to question every day.

Would someone, or a collection of someones, be willing to provide a definition of "faith"?

"Those who walk in the clouded vision of faith are unaware that all around them is a beautiful, glorious world, byzantine in its complexity, rich in its diversity, capable of inspiring more awe and wonder than even the most wildly imaginative fantasies of humans. We stand on the shores of galaxies, we map the countless branches of the tree of life and find our own small leaf among them; we write down the harmonies and symmetries that govern the cosmos on a piece of paper. Compared to the vast sweep of natural history, all the pantheons of the past seem like pale shadows. Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?"

Are you saying that those who believe in God are unable to comprehend or to appreciate the beauty and majesty of the natural world as deeply as atheists are?  This seems like the sort of sweeping generalization, couched in beautiful language, that the faithful are often accused of.  Why should a believer in God be any less capable of appreciating the world we have been given?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the post assume that faith requires freedom from questioning?  Faith is not something that we are not called to question; if anything, it's something we ought to question every day.</p>
<p>Would someone, or a collection of someones, be willing to provide a definition of "faith"?</p>
<p>"Those who walk in the clouded vision of faith are unaware that all around them is a beautiful, glorious world, byzantine in its complexity, rich in its diversity, capable of inspiring more awe and wonder than even the most wildly imaginative fantasies of humans. We stand on the shores of galaxies, we map the countless branches of the tree of life and find our own small leaf among them; we write down the harmonies and symmetries that govern the cosmos on a piece of paper. Compared to the vast sweep of natural history, all the pantheons of the past seem like pale shadows. Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?"</p>
<p>Are you saying that those who believe in God are unable to comprehend or to appreciate the beauty and majesty of the natural world as deeply as atheists are?  This seems like the sort of sweeping generalization, couched in beautiful language, that the faithful are often accused of.  Why should a believer in God be any less capable of appreciating the world we have been given?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't quite follow how the opening comments here relate to the rest of the essay.  While everything you say makes pretty good sense from the perspective of someone who believes that God doesn't exist and thus that Paul was mistaken or lying, I don't see how you've demonstrated that it's a "gaffe" like unto C.S. Lewis.

For that matter, I don't necessarily see where C.S. Lewis has made a gaffe either.  Specifically, I haven't yet found on the site here anywhere where anybody has discussed C.S. Lewis's notion that The Fall was not inevitable.  In most (all?) of C.S. Lewis's fictional worlds, The Fall never happened, and this is why they are so "perfect."

The Fall, it is believed, is the source of suffering and our desire to sin (although I've been asking myself lately why The Fall makes me want to sleep with my neighbor's wife and not, say, throw tomatos at her, or spend long hours fantasizing about her fixing my gutters and sealing my driveway -- it seems that this Evil Urge is best explained by evolution).  We are right to disbelieve it, but shouldn't ignore it if we're going to actively claim that Christianity is internally inconsistant.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Atheist authors should have a Christian (or former Christian) proofread their work before they publish it, so as to avoid raising objections that are "easily harmonized".  (e.g. Dawkins and the geneology of Jesus, or Stenger and the seed of the woman.)

I can appreciate the above essay in terms of something written for Atheists to reflect on, but I think it goes too far in accusing Paul of a "gaffe."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't quite follow how the opening comments here relate to the rest of the essay.  While everything you say makes pretty good sense from the perspective of someone who believes that God doesn't exist and thus that Paul was mistaken or lying, I don't see how you've demonstrated that it's a "gaffe" like unto C.S. Lewis.</p>
<p>For that matter, I don't necessarily see where C.S. Lewis has made a gaffe either.  Specifically, I haven't yet found on the site here anywhere where anybody has discussed C.S. Lewis's notion that The Fall was not inevitable.  In most (all?) of C.S. Lewis's fictional worlds, The Fall never happened, and this is why they are so "perfect."</p>
<p>The Fall, it is believed, is the source of suffering and our desire to sin (although I've been asking myself lately why The Fall makes me want to sleep with my neighbor's wife and not, say, throw tomatos at her, or spend long hours fantasizing about her fixing my gutters and sealing my driveway -- it seems that this Evil Urge is best explained by evolution).  We are right to disbelieve it, but shouldn't ignore it if we're going to actively claim that Christianity is internally inconsistant.</p>
<p>I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Atheist authors should have a Christian (or former Christian) proofread their work before they publish it, so as to avoid raising objections that are "easily harmonized".  (e.g. Dawkins and the geneology of Jesus, or Stenger and the seed of the woman.)</p>
<p>I can appreciate the above essay in terms of something written for Atheists to reflect on, but I think it goes too far in accusing Paul of a "gaffe."</p>
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		<title>By: anti-nonsense</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/04/through-a-glass-brightly.html#comment-23085</link>
		<dc:creator>anti-nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again you make a beautiful case for looking at the world with our eyes wide open, taking in all the wonders that are there if we only open our eyes and minds and see them. 

It's wonderful to be able to see the world as it really is, it is even more empowering to realize that we don't need to wait for a "Second Coming" or a "rapture" in order to change the way the world is, we have the power to do wonderful things and we CAN solve the largest problems that now face us. We don't need to be "saved" by some imaginary sky daddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again you make a beautiful case for looking at the world with our eyes wide open, taking in all the wonders that are there if we only open our eyes and minds and see them. </p>
<p>It's wonderful to be able to see the world as it really is, it is even more empowering to realize that we don't need to wait for a "Second Coming" or a "rapture" in order to change the way the world is, we have the power to do wonderful things and we CAN solve the largest problems that now face us. We don't need to be "saved" by some imaginary sky daddy.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you make a wonderfully true argument here. It's funny that a lot of my Christian friends call me a pessimist because of my atheistic views. Yet I do not find the truth pessimistic. I see the truth as beautiful and uplifting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make a wonderfully true argument here. It's funny that a lot of my Christian friends call me a pessimist because of my atheistic views. Yet I do not find the truth pessimistic. I see the truth as beautiful and uplifting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Lennox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Lennox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?"

I agree with terrence - this is a book in itself. 

Anyone with an open mind can only be cheered by the thought and it can be used to open a chink in the armour of anyone with a closed mind.

I can't wait to get my hands on the book you are working on, your writing style is great and your imagery can be quite evocative. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?"</p>
<p>I agree with terrence - this is a book in itself. </p>
<p>Anyone with an open mind can only be cheered by the thought and it can be used to open a chink in the armour of anyone with a closed mind.</p>
<p>I can't wait to get my hands on the book you are working on, your writing style is great and your imagery can be quite evocative. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think "Throw the glass, forcefully" would be a nice alternate title for this. ^.^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think "Throw the glass, forcefully" would be a nice alternate title for this. ^.^</p>
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		<title>By: terrence</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/04/through-a-glass-brightly.html#comment-23073</link>
		<dc:creator>terrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?

I think you've just perfected fusion technology. That comment is worth a billion words of other books.

"No, I don't believe in God. I believe in something much greater."

---- Artur Rubenstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who needs the small mythologies of a bygone age when we have the entire universe to study and explore?</p>
<p>I think you've just perfected fusion technology. That comment is worth a billion words of other books.</p>
<p>"No, I don't believe in God. I believe in something much greater."</p>
<p>---- Artur Rubenstein</p>
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