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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/06/an-exercise-in-perspective.html#comment-43481</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a few years late for the debate on new vocabulary for hubris, arrogance, pananthrohegemomania... But how about hyperlomania (like megalomania, but bigger)?</description>
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		<title>By: OMGF</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/06/an-exercise-in-perspective.html#comment-43480</link>
		<dc:creator>OMGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I must point out though that we as Christians do not believe that the entire universe was created for our benefit for, as you say, that would be arrogant and preposterous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Scottish Xians?
&lt;blockquote&gt;We rather believe, at least those of us who have thought about it, that the entire universe was created by God in order to bring glory and honor to Himself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, god is a show-off?  For a supposedly perfect being, god sure does have a lot of failings.  I don&#039;t see why a perfect being would need to show off or bring glory and honor to himself.  Shouldn&#039;t a perfect being have maximal glory and honor?  How does this bring glory and honor to god anyway?
&lt;blockquote&gt;You see we can not understand why God, being so BIG, would love man who as you say is nothing really. It goes beyond our human minds, just like the sheer vastness of the universe blows our minds. Yet God&#039;s love is just as real as the beautiful, vast universe that is all around us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How do you know that&#039;s true then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I must point out though that we as Christians do not believe that the entire universe was created for our benefit for, as you say, that would be arrogant and preposterous.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Scottish Xians?</p>
<blockquote><p>We rather believe, at least those of us who have thought about it, that the entire universe was created by God in order to bring glory and honor to Himself.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, god is a show-off?  For a supposedly perfect being, god sure does have a lot of failings.  I don't see why a perfect being would need to show off or bring glory and honor to himself.  Shouldn't a perfect being have maximal glory and honor?  How does this bring glory and honor to god anyway?</p>
<blockquote><p>You see we can not understand why God, being so BIG, would love man who as you say is nothing really. It goes beyond our human minds, just like the sheer vastness of the universe blows our minds. Yet God's love is just as real as the beautiful, vast universe that is all around us.</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you know that's true then?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bowen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron Soutar &lt;blockquote&gt; God crafted and designed the universe to show his power and glory and to show, just as we are infinitesimally small, He is astronomically huge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So why does this god then choose to reveal itself only to a parochial little middle eastern tribe who at the time had no concept of the true vastness of its &quot;creation&quot;? Why choose as a method to do this a flawed and ambiguous document which subsequently became so bowlderised few people agree on its original meaning? and why not put a bloody great signature on this masterpeice somewhere where we can all see it so there is no doubt which deity&#039;s responsiblity it is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron Soutar<br />
<blockquote> God crafted and designed the universe to show his power and glory and to show, just as we are infinitesimally small, He is astronomically huge.</p></blockquote>
<p>So why does this god then choose to reveal itself only to a parochial little middle eastern tribe who at the time had no concept of the true vastness of its "creation"? Why choose as a method to do this a flawed and ambiguous document which subsequently became so bowlderised few people agree on its original meaning? and why not put a bloody great signature on this masterpeice somewhere where we can all see it so there is no doubt which deity's responsiblity it is?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Soutar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Soutar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend, I am a Christian and I agree with you that we are less than specks on the grand scale of things. I must point out though that we as Christians do not believe that the entire universe was created for our benefit for, as you say, that would be arrogant and preposterous. We rather believe, at least those of us who have thought about it, that the entire universe was created by God in order to bring glory and honor to Himself. What craftsman does not create things, in part, just to show them off? God crafted and designed the universe to show his power and glory and to show, just as we are infinitesimally small, He is astronomically huge. Realizing this fact then brings new meaning to what the Bible says in Psalms 8:3-4, &quot;When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man that thou visitest him?&quot;
You see we can not understand why God, being so BIG, would love man who as you say is nothing really. It goes beyond our human minds, just like the sheer vastness of the universe blows our minds. Yet God&#039;s love is just as real as the beautiful, vast universe that is all around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend, I am a Christian and I agree with you that we are less than specks on the grand scale of things. I must point out though that we as Christians do not believe that the entire universe was created for our benefit for, as you say, that would be arrogant and preposterous. We rather believe, at least those of us who have thought about it, that the entire universe was created by God in order to bring glory and honor to Himself. What craftsman does not create things, in part, just to show them off? God crafted and designed the universe to show his power and glory and to show, just as we are infinitesimally small, He is astronomically huge. Realizing this fact then brings new meaning to what the Bible says in Psalms 8:3-4, "When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man that thou visitest him?"<br />
You see we can not understand why God, being so BIG, would love man who as you say is nothing really. It goes beyond our human minds, just like the sheer vastness of the universe blows our minds. Yet God's love is just as real as the beautiful, vast universe that is all around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Baerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Baerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Over 8000 years ago Hinduism proposed&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quibble - Since nobody was writing things down that long ago, I wonder what basis you could have for claiming that was a Hindu belief then or that anything that could reasonably be called Hinduism existed that long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Over 8000 years ago Hinduism proposed</p></blockquote>
<p>Quibble - Since nobody was writing things down that long ago, I wonder what basis you could have for claiming that was a Hindu belief then or that anything that could reasonably be called Hinduism existed that long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Vishnu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vishnu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment &quot;On our world today, there are still representatives of ancient religions who hold that the entire vast universe was created solely for man and placed under our governance - that the natural laws that apply on every scale across the cosmos and govern the origin and future evolution of billions of galaxies and trillions of stars were fine-tuned for humanity&#039;s benefit - that our tiny planet is the only place God cares about, the only place he is interested in - and that on our judgment day, all the stars and all the galaxies will be rolled together as a scroll and will cease to exist.&quot;

Is a bit misleading. Within a section of extreme Judo-Christian belief systems this may be the view. However, there are other trains of thought in religion that does not hold this view. Furthermore, there is no reference in the Bible that God only cares about life on earth.
WIthin Hindusim, I am hard pressed to think of any sect that shares the view you ascribed to religious thinking. In fact, central to Hindusim is the belief in other worlds with Beings, that God (the Supreme Being) cares about. Over 8000 years ago Hinduism proposed the existence of an infinite number of universes, create from the Mind of Maha Vishnu in an instant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment "On our world today, there are still representatives of ancient religions who hold that the entire vast universe was created solely for man and placed under our governance - that the natural laws that apply on every scale across the cosmos and govern the origin and future evolution of billions of galaxies and trillions of stars were fine-tuned for humanity's benefit - that our tiny planet is the only place God cares about, the only place he is interested in - and that on our judgment day, all the stars and all the galaxies will be rolled together as a scroll and will cease to exist."</p>
<p>Is a bit misleading. Within a section of extreme Judo-Christian belief systems this may be the view. However, there are other trains of thought in religion that does not hold this view. Furthermore, there is no reference in the Bible that God only cares about life on earth.<br />
WIthin Hindusim, I am hard pressed to think of any sect that shares the view you ascribed to religious thinking. In fact, central to Hindusim is the belief in other worlds with Beings, that God (the Supreme Being) cares about. Over 8000 years ago Hinduism proposed the existence of an infinite number of universes, create from the Mind of Maha Vishnu in an instant.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is a much more difficult and challenging prospect to do the right thing in this world when faced with the realization that we each are less than an atom of a molecule of a microbe on a grain of sand on an infinite beach, than it is to do the right thing because we are supposed to follow precepts of religion and society (many times the same thing). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, why, exactly?</description>
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<p>Um, why, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: PocketWatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>PocketWatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a much more difficult and challenging prospect to do the right thing in this world when faced with the realization that we each are less than an atom of a molecule of a microbe on a grain of sand on an infinite beach, than it is to do the right thing because we are supposed to follow precepts of religion and society (many times the same thing).  When faced with the reality that we are so small in such a vast place, we all have one of two choices:  Hedonism becuase what we do simply doesn&#039;t matter, or ethical behavior because we care about ourselves, and, by extension, the rest of the universe.  I respect someone who chooses the right thing knowing all about their physical insignificance versus someone that follows rules because they might get a reward after they move on to another plane of existence.

As for vast spaces and connecting, there is a repeatable experiment in quantuum physics that goes something like this:  If you split a quanta of light, you get two equal and opposite quanta.  One spins one way, the other opposite.  One is &quot;positive,&quot; one is &quot;negative,&quot; etc.  The fly away from each other at the speed of light in opposite directions.  Here&#039;s the spooky part...  If you influence one in any way, the other reacts INSTANTLY (no time lag no matter how far apart they are) in the opposite way.  In other words, if you tickle one, they both laugh.  Hmmm... FTL may be impossible, but what is happening here?  No one knows, but it sure makes me think there is more than one way to connect, and emphasizes the idea that we are all connected, and what we do affects everything.

Just some thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a much more difficult and challenging prospect to do the right thing in this world when faced with the realization that we each are less than an atom of a molecule of a microbe on a grain of sand on an infinite beach, than it is to do the right thing because we are supposed to follow precepts of religion and society (many times the same thing).  When faced with the reality that we are so small in such a vast place, we all have one of two choices:  Hedonism becuase what we do simply doesn't matter, or ethical behavior because we care about ourselves, and, by extension, the rest of the universe.  I respect someone who chooses the right thing knowing all about their physical insignificance versus someone that follows rules because they might get a reward after they move on to another plane of existence.</p>
<p>As for vast spaces and connecting, there is a repeatable experiment in quantuum physics that goes something like this:  If you split a quanta of light, you get two equal and opposite quanta.  One spins one way, the other opposite.  One is "positive," one is "negative," etc.  The fly away from each other at the speed of light in opposite directions.  Here's the spooky part...  If you influence one in any way, the other reacts INSTANTLY (no time lag no matter how far apart they are) in the opposite way.  In other words, if you tickle one, they both laugh.  Hmmm... FTL may be impossible, but what is happening here?  No one knows, but it sure makes me think there is more than one way to connect, and emphasizes the idea that we are all connected, and what we do affects everything.</p>
<p>Just some thoughts...</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So beautiful...  so unbelievably uncomprehensible.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So beautiful...  so unbelievably uncomprehensible.  Thank you, thank you, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine most plans about what to do with the rest of this universe would be worthless. What could God possibly want with all that useless stuff out there? (Well, effectively useless to him, anyway!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine most plans about what to do with the rest of this universe would be worthless. What could God possibly want with all that useless stuff out there? (Well, effectively useless to him, anyway!)</p>
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		<title>By: heliobates</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliobates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I for one believe God has a plan for the entirity of the universe, to include the microscopic dots on a microscopic dot that we are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If believing were enough to make it so, I&#039;d--right this instant--have my own Beer Volcano, instead of having to wait for the afterlife, like every other schmuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I for one believe God has a plan for the entirity of the universe, to include the microscopic dots on a microscopic dot that we are.</p></blockquote>
<p>If believing were enough to make it so, I'd--right this instant--have my own Beer Volcano, instead of having to wait for the afterlife, like every other schmuck.</p>
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		<title>By: OMGF</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are no more or less special than the speck of dust that sits on my tv screen, then that god is irrelevant to us, as that god is neutral towards us, not the supposedly personal god that we keep hearing so much about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are no more or less special than the speck of dust that sits on my tv screen, then that god is irrelevant to us, as that god is neutral towards us, not the supposedly personal god that we keep hearing so much about.</p>
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