Comments on: Claiming the Mantle of Victimhood http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:09:26 +0000 By: James Bradbury http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26183 James Bradbury Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:25:33 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26183 @Polly, Someone else obviously <a href="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i67/shan424/06-christianmajority.gif" rel="nofollow">agreed with you</a>. I remember someone else mentioning it being chased by ghosts would be a good addition. @Polly,

Someone else obviously agreed with you. I remember someone else mentioning it being chased by ghosts would be a good addition.

]]> By: Polly http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26156 Polly Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:56:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26156 @James Bradbury: Apropos to the discussion, now that I look at it(again) it looks like a purple Pac-Man EATING the minority sections of the pie. :) @James Bradbury:
Apropos to the discussion, now that I look at it(again) it looks like a purple Pac-Man EATING the minority sections of the pie. :)

]]> By: James Bradbury http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26154 James Bradbury Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:01:19 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26154 I know it's been posted in response to a previous article, but you really should see this. It's fab! <a href="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f81/jkdway/oppressedkv6.gif" rel="nofollow">Christian Pie-Chart</a> I know it's been posted in response to a previous article, but you really should see this. It's fab!

Christian Pie-Chart

]]> By: Billf http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26153 Billf Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26153 uhclem, I too am married to a woman who was raised a right wing fundamentalist. It makes for an interesting marriage. She does have an open mind though, to a point. Although she still sees herself as a Christian, she no longer follows any particular doctrine. I think she agrees with the famous Gandhi quote "I like your Christ, but not your Christians." or something along those lines. I pointed out to her some of the lovely lines in the bible that address how women should be treated. I don't know what ticked her off more: The fact that the these lines existed in the bible, or that I brought them to her attention. uhclem, I too am married to a woman who was raised a right wing fundamentalist. It makes for an interesting marriage. She does have an open mind though, to a point. Although she still sees herself as a Christian, she no longer follows any particular doctrine. I think she agrees with the famous Gandhi quote "I like your Christ, but not your Christians." or something along those lines.

I pointed out to her some of the lovely lines in the bible that address how women should be treated. I don't know what ticked her off more: The fact that the these lines existed in the bible, or that I brought them to her attention.

]]> By: G Riggs http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26152 G Riggs Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:13:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26152 And, Andrea, that split can sometimes play right into the pronounced differences among certain Christians that I previously alluded to, concerning whether or not any application of the cerebral to any aspect of doctrine is automatically suspect of one's "faith". Some are convinced that it is indeed suspect, and some believers even construe straightforward scholarship as an attempt to undermine/persecute other believers! Cheers, G Riggs And, Andrea, that split can sometimes play right into the pronounced differences among certain Christians that I previously alluded to, concerning whether or not any application of the cerebral to any aspect of doctrine is automatically suspect of one's "faith". Some are convinced that it is indeed suspect, and some believers even construe straightforward scholarship as an attempt to undermine/persecute other believers!

Cheers,

G Riggs

]]> By: andrea http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26150 andrea Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:45:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26150 I'm inclined to think that 'believers' think they are persecuted because they are so fragmented that only a few at any time actually believe the same thing. They think even other supposed believers are "persecuting" them by daring to not believe exactly the same. I'm inclined to think that 'believers' think they are persecuted because they are so fragmented that only a few at any time actually believe the same thing. They think even other supposed believers are "persecuting" them by daring to not believe exactly the same.

]]> By: Martin07 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26145 Martin07 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:50:58 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26145 I really enjoy your blog. Keep up the good work! I really enjoy your blog. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Mrnaglfar http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26143 Mrnaglfar Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:15:58 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26143 Sounds like the believers are confusing 'oppression' with 'having bad (read: unjustifiable and/or harmful) ideas'. Just because they're constantly losing the intellectual battle and cannot back up what they say does not mean they're being oppressed. Ideas and beliefs, like most things, shouldn't get undeserved respect; that should be earned. Sounds like the believers are confusing 'oppression' with 'having bad (read: unjustifiable and/or harmful) ideas'. Just because they're constantly losing the intellectual battle and cannot back up what they say does not mean they're being oppressed. Ideas and beliefs, like most things, shouldn't get undeserved respect; that should be earned.

]]> By: Tommykey http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26142 Tommykey Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:18:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26142 It's like when some Christian on a college campus in Georgia, I think her name was Ruth Malhotra, decried some campus regulation that prohibited telling gays they were sinners and an abomination. "I'm being persecuted for my religious beliefs" Malhotra whined. In the warped mental universe of people like her, allowing gays to walk about in public without being harrassed is giving them special privileges, and not allowing her to tell them they are going to burn in hell unless they abandon homosexuality and embrace Christ is persecution. It's like when some Christian on a college campus in Georgia, I think her name was Ruth Malhotra, decried some campus regulation that prohibited telling gays they were sinners and an abomination. "I'm being persecuted for my religious beliefs" Malhotra whined. In the warped mental universe of people like her, allowing gays to walk about in public without being harrassed is giving them special privileges, and not allowing her to tell them they are going to burn in hell unless they abandon homosexuality and embrace Christ is persecution.

]]> By: andrew http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26141 andrew Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:08:08 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/claiming-the-mantle-of-victimhood.html#comment-26141 Thank you! This is something I have heard many times from christians of all denomenations. I totally agree with that they use "underdog" mentality and agree that the mantle of victimhood is used falsely as a unifyng tactic. It, like many other things I have had shoved down my throat, is utter BS. Keep up the good work!!!! Andrew Thank you! This is something I have heard many times from christians of all denomenations. I totally agree with that they use "underdog" mentality and agree that the mantle of victimhood is used falsely as a unifyng tactic. It, like many other things I have had shoved down my throat, is utter BS. Keep up the good work!!!!

Andrew

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