Comments on: The Thomas Weeks Affair http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:17:46 +0000 By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28818 OMGF Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:32:08 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28818 Mary Ann, <blockquote>Those without sin let him or her cast the first stone or forever hold his or her peace.</blockquote> You do know that the story where Jesus says this was added to the Bible, right? IOW, Jesus never said it (if he indeed said anything in the Bible or even existed). I see your point, however, and I have to say, "What?" Are you serious? Do you really think that I can't condemn a man for beating his wife? What other side is there to this story? Did she nag him or something? Were her actions worthy of a beating? I tend to think that violence is over the line in just about every situation that doesn't involve self-preservation, so I'm confident that he stepped over the line. So, I have to wonder why you think that speaking out against violence and hypocrisy doesn't lead to peace. Mary Ann,

Those without sin let him or her cast the first stone or forever hold his or her peace.

You do know that the story where Jesus says this was added to the Bible, right? IOW, Jesus never said it (if he indeed said anything in the Bible or even existed).

I see your point, however, and I have to say, "What?" Are you serious? Do you really think that I can't condemn a man for beating his wife? What other side is there to this story? Did she nag him or something? Were her actions worthy of a beating? I tend to think that violence is over the line in just about every situation that doesn't involve self-preservation, so I'm confident that he stepped over the line. So, I have to wonder why you think that speaking out against violence and hypocrisy doesn't lead to peace.

]]> By: Mrnaglfar http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28805 Mrnaglfar Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:23:21 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28805 Mary ann, <blockquote>Nothing is solved through arguing,NOTHING!</blockquote> That's nonsense - all discourse can be solved through debate (which is of course an argument I can assume you will not be listening to because it solves nothing). <blockquote>so judgemental from all of the PERFECT PEOPLE regarding this situation with Pastor Bynam and husband</blockquote> I don't think you need to be perfect to judge a guy for beating his wife. Just a thought. <blockquote>No he should not have beat her and he will not be blessed for that act</blockquote> Hey, didn't you just say not to judge? Anyway, it's good to know he will not be blessed for beating his wife; I'm glad you speak on god's behalf, since god seems to be not talking on the subject himself. Now if the church can call that miracle and with certainty attribute it to some long dead leader, we can add another saint to that long list of people you can pray to. <blockquote>Pray for both of them because as some have said there are two {three] sides to every story. We need to practice restraint to keep from talking too much to cause peace.</blockquote> Prayer has no effect on anything; that has been scientifically tested. I don't even understand that last setence. How will not condemning a man who rightfully deserves our condemnation bring about peace? Are you seriously suggesting we just leave wifebeaters alone because if we did, everything would be more peaceful? Mary ann,

Nothing is solved through arguing,NOTHING!

That's nonsense - all discourse can be solved through debate (which is of course an argument I can assume you will not be listening to because it solves nothing).

so judgemental from all of the PERFECT PEOPLE regarding this situation with Pastor Bynam and husband

I don't think you need to be perfect to judge a guy for beating his wife. Just a thought.

No he should not have beat her and he will not be blessed for that act

Hey, didn't you just say not to judge? Anyway, it's good to know he will not be blessed for beating his wife; I'm glad you speak on god's behalf, since god seems to be not talking on the subject himself. Now if the church can call that miracle and with certainty attribute it to some long dead leader, we can add another saint to that long list of people you can pray to.

Pray for both of them because as some have said there are two {three] sides to every story. We need to practice restraint to keep from talking too much to cause peace.

Prayer has no effect on anything; that has been scientifically tested.

I don't even understand that last setence. How will not condemning a man who rightfully deserves our condemnation bring about peace? Are you seriously suggesting we just leave wifebeaters alone because if we did, everything would be more peaceful?

]]> By: mary ann http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28802 mary ann Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:46:40 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-28802 I find it interesting that most of the posted comments are so judgemental from all of the PERFECT PEOPLE regarding this situation with Pastor Bynam and husband. No he should not have beat her and he will not be blessed for that act.Those without sin let him or her cast the first stone or forever hold his or her peace.Pray for both of them because as some have said there are two {three] sides to every story. We need to practice restraint to keep from talking too much to cause peace.Nothing is solved through arguing,NOTHING! I find it interesting that most of the posted comments are so judgemental from all of the PERFECT PEOPLE regarding this situation with Pastor Bynam and husband. No he should not have beat her and he will not be blessed for that act.Those without sin let him or her cast the first stone or forever hold his or her peace.Pray for both of them because as some have said there are two {three] sides to every story. We need to practice restraint to keep from talking too much to cause peace.Nothing is solved through arguing,NOTHING!

]]> By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27352 OMGF Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:43:51 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27352 KD, <blockquote>However, you must understand that being a Christian does not instantly change your old nature.</blockquote> That kinda depends on which sect you are, correct? Either way, I find this notion to be rather hateful. Why do Xians hate their fellow human beings? <blockquote>Yes, Bishop Weeks, has to repent not only to God, but to his wife.</blockquote> Good thing he did that...oh wait no he didn't. He forgave her. I guess he got over being angry at her for her hitting her face against his fist over and over. <blockquote>The bible tells us that the Gift and Calling of God are IRREVOCABLE….YES, even if you beat your wife does not discount your call and your gift.</blockquote> 1. There are many former Xians on this blog which put the lie to your "IRREVOCABLE" comment. 2. I'm glad to hear that your god will take wife beaters into heaven instead of people who don't do anything wrong except disbelieve. Your god seems like a great judge of morality. <blockquote>BTW - Regardless of Men and Women of God falling…JESUS IS REAL!</blockquote> Based on what evidence? KD,

However, you must understand that being a Christian does not instantly change your old nature.

That kinda depends on which sect you are, correct? Either way, I find this notion to be rather hateful. Why do Xians hate their fellow human beings?

Yes, Bishop Weeks, has to repent not only to God, but to his wife.

Good thing he did that...oh wait no he didn't. He forgave her. I guess he got over being angry at her for her hitting her face against his fist over and over.

The bible tells us that the Gift and Calling of God are IRREVOCABLE….YES, even if you beat your wife does not discount your call and your gift.

1. There are many former Xians on this blog which put the lie to your "IRREVOCABLE" comment.
2. I'm glad to hear that your god will take wife beaters into heaven instead of people who don't do anything wrong except disbelieve. Your god seems like a great judge of morality.

BTW - Regardless of Men and Women of God falling…JESUS IS REAL!

Based on what evidence?

]]> By: KD http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27348 KD Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:26:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27348 It's unfortunate that this occured as I believe that Bishop Weeks is a man of God. However, you must understand that being a Christian does not instantly change your old nature. The only thing has been perfected in a believer is their spirit nature which is from God. Evil is always present, ESPECIALLY the evil within ourselves. As children of God we are to stay in His presence, so that we would be transformed into the image of Christ. However, we will NEVER be perfect. Yes, Bishop Weeks, has to repent not only to God, but to his wife. The bible tells us that the Gift and Calling of God are IRREVOCABLE....YES, even if you beat your wife does not discount your call and your gift. However I will say that counseling is much needed. What the Body of Christ should be doing now is praying for both Bishop Weeks and his wife. BTW - Regardless of Men and Women of God falling...JESUS IS REAL! It's unfortunate that this occured as I believe that Bishop Weeks is a man of God. However, you must understand that being a Christian does not instantly change your old nature. The only thing has been perfected in a believer is their spirit nature which is from God. Evil is always present, ESPECIALLY the evil within ourselves. As children of God we are to stay in His presence, so that we would be transformed into the image of Christ. However, we will NEVER be perfect. Yes, Bishop Weeks, has to repent not only to God, but to his wife. The bible tells us that the Gift and Calling of God are IRREVOCABLE....YES, even if you beat your wife does not discount your call and your gift.

However I will say that counseling is much needed. What the Body of Christ should be doing now is praying for both Bishop Weeks and his wife. BTW - Regardless of Men and Women of God falling...JESUS IS REAL!

]]> By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27248 OMGF Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:09:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27248 One reason I care is because your god seems to aid and abet the horrible actions of people like Weeks. I have to take umbrage at your assertion that god loves all of his creation. How can that be if he sends the majority of his "children" to hell? One reason I care is because your god seems to aid and abet the horrible actions of people like Weeks.

I have to take umbrage at your assertion that god loves all of his creation. How can that be if he sends the majority of his "children" to hell?

]]> By: Lynet http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27232 Lynet Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:55:01 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27232 Well, I for one care because so many people look at the damnable doctrine of hell and call that <i>justice</i> -- because thinking that something horrible will justly happen to nonbelievers seems to me likely to make you less likely to sympathise with nonbelievers (to sympathise would be too painful, surely) -- because you believe that God will help Thomas Weeks rather than realising that sometimes the help of human beings is all the help there is -- and because in focusing on the idea that Thomas Weeks sinned and will be forgiven rather than on the fact that Weeks did terrible damage to another human being you pull the focus away from the central problem, which is the harm done which deserves our sympathy. Well, I for one care because so many people look at the damnable doctrine of hell and call that justice -- because thinking that something horrible will justly happen to nonbelievers seems to me likely to make you less likely to sympathise with nonbelievers (to sympathise would be too painful, surely) -- because you believe that God will help Thomas Weeks rather than realising that sometimes the help of human beings is all the help there is -- and because in focusing on the idea that Thomas Weeks sinned and will be forgiven rather than on the fact that Weeks did terrible damage to another human being you pull the focus away from the central problem, which is the harm done which deserves our sympathy.

]]> By: lanier http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27222 lanier Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:31:50 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27222 OMGF: Why do you care you don't believe in my God anyway, right? If you give your life to Christ, you will spend eternity with the Lord, but you choose not too. God is a forgiving God. He loves all of His creation. :) I will keep you in my prayers so that someday you will BELIEVE. OMGF: Why do you care you don't believe in my God anyway, right? If you give your life to Christ, you will spend eternity with the Lord, but you choose not too. God is a forgiving God. He loves all of His creation. :) I will keep you in my prayers so that someday you will BELIEVE.

]]> By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27215 OMGF Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:38:16 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27215 <blockquote>Let me start off by saying being a christian is not a religion, but a lifestyle.</blockquote> Rubbish. <blockquote>re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. 7. religions, Archaic. religious rites. 8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow. </blockquote> Sorry, but you don't get to make up definitions for words. (Note that I could also be petty and note that your lifestyle seems to show a penchant for beating, dehumanizing, and oppressing women, but I'll refrain.) <blockquote>Thomas Weeks is still a child of God and will be delivered from the spirit of abuse.</blockquote> Well, it's a relief that your god is wise enough to see that my sin of disbelief is worthy of eternal torture in hell but can forgive Weeks for beating the crap out of his wife and then acting like it is her fault.

Let me start off by saying being a christian is not a religion, but a lifestyle.

Rubbish.

re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.

Sorry, but you don't get to make up definitions for words. (Note that I could also be petty and note that your lifestyle seems to show a penchant for beating, dehumanizing, and oppressing women, but I'll refrain.)

Thomas Weeks is still a child of God and will be delivered from the spirit of abuse.

Well, it's a relief that your god is wise enough to see that my sin of disbelief is worthy of eternal torture in hell but can forgive Weeks for beating the crap out of his wife and then acting like it is her fault.

]]> By: lanier http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27213 lanier Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:27:19 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2007/08/the-thomas-weeks-affair.html#comment-27213 Let me start off by saying being a christian is not a religion, but a lifestyle. Christ died so we can all have a personal relationship with God our creator. There is also an anti-christ(satan)that comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He is the enemy to all of God's children. Satan tried to destroy this marriage. "No weapon form against Juanita will prosper." Isaiah 54:17 Thomas Weeks is still a child of God and will be delivered from the spirit of abuse. Let me start off by saying being a christian is not a religion, but a lifestyle. Christ died so we can all have a personal relationship with God our creator. There is also an anti-christ(satan)that comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He is the enemy to all of God's children. Satan tried to destroy this marriage. "No weapon form against Juanita will prosper." Isaiah 54:17 Thomas Weeks is still a child of God and will be delivered from the spirit of abuse.

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