Suppose "Big Pharma" has a cure to a fatal disease that affects one in a thousand of the population, that they are holding back. Now the same number of people will be getting sick from this each year, and an equal number dying. So the potential market is not changing. Meanwhile the money that could have been earned last year has not been earned, and it is a fundamental rule of value that early money is worth more than late money. So - if there were such a cure - the accountants would force it onto the market. There is no advantage to "Big Pharma" to delay it.

I have no evidence that this machine works...

And that's really all that needs to be said. You have no evidence that this device works. So why are you defending it? Because it might work? You could say that about absolutely any treatment, as Mrnaglfar pointed out.

What you don't seem to recognize is that the burden of proof is always on the person who makes the positive assertion - the one who claims that their invention does something, that it works for the purpose it was intended for. If Rife and his cronies don't have that evidence, it is unethical and irresponsible for them to be marketing this machine. They'd be taking people's money - and possibly persuading them to abandon conventional medical treatment, as the OP mentioned - without any evidence that they're benefiting those people. You would certainly not let the drug companies off so lightly if they marketed a pill for which they hadn't done any studies of effectiveness or safety.

Like I said in a previous post the government had the drug companies would allow a cure for a deasese that makes them so much money.

Derek Lowe, a pharmaceutical researcher, has a devastating reply to this conspiracy idiocy:

It's not very far to the conspiracy theories that pop up about cancer, about HIV, about every awful disease you can imagine. "You know," some fool will whisper to you, "that the drug companies really have a cure for it. They're just waiting until more people get sick. In fact, they're probably making sure that as many people get it as possible."

It's difficult for me to express coherently my contempt for that idea. Let me assure you that employees of pharmaceutical companies, and their relatives, and their friends, are potential heirs to every disease that this world offers, just like everyone else. I might add that it's particularly hard to watch someone you know suffer and die from a disease that you've been working for years to treat, but still have nothing to offer for.

Additionally, should we hold out the possibility of anything if we don't have counter-evidence? As Mrnaglfar pointed out, he has psychic powers. You have no evidence that he doesn't have psychic powers, so I guess you should believe that maybe he does.

I have no evidence that this machine works and you have none that it doesn't.

Actually, we do have evidence it doesn't work, based on the claims of the makers of the box. We have tons of evidence that the things they say the box does can't happen.

*Sigh* at OMFG I did read the OP... and like you said its Ebon who is claiming that the box requires nuclear fission to work not the makers of the box.

Um, if they are claiming that they can break apart elements, then they are claiming nuclear fission. Simply because they don't use those words doesn't mean that they aren't making the claim. If they are too stupid to realize what they are claiming, it's not my fault or Ebon's, but their's.

Your attacks on me are immature. Please attack the issue and not me.

Ah, so pointing out your weak arguments (and why they are weak) and the fact that your arguments have been dealt with constitutes an immature attack on you? If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

I have no evidence that this machine works and you have none that it doesn't.

If you have no evidence it works then we all may as well assume it doesn't, especially since it's claiming to operate on principles that simply make no logical sense (like shattering a virus with a frequency that this machine is supposed to increase somehow). If it does work, it should have not problem passing double-blind testing on large samples and operating well above the placebo effect consistently.

Besides, would you pay $1500 (in lieu of other, tested, real treatments) for a product for which there is no available evidence of it working? If so, you're getting ripped off; for half that price I can actually use my psychic powers to telekentically increase all those nasty 'toxin' frequencies and you won't even have to leave your home. I know, you'll say I don't have any evidence that I can do what I claim, but you don't have any evidence I don't.

There are lots of eye witness accounts to Rife curing peoples cancers with this machine you just have to look it up.

Eye-witness accounts of him curing cancer; did people actually watched tumors shrink before their eyes when using this machine? Did cancer patients on their death bed suddenly make full recoveries and walk out of their hospital, or was it the wave of sound produced from all those unnamed toxins exploding? You'd think such a thing would become an overnight sensation if it actually worked.
There are people willing to claim they are psychics who can talk to pets too, and for every website of someone saying that it works, others are calling them hacks without evidence.

I've been trying to look up more information on the Hunza, but what I find is remarkably scattered. Long lifespan, plenty of physical excerise, postive outlooks on life, and seemingly good diet. The claims of their lifespan seem exaggerated (though still long), as most sites are claiming they can live up to 140 years, despite the oldest living person being documented at 122. If you want to make the point that our diet is pretty shitty overall, you'll hear no argument from me, likewise if you point out that people are becoming less active and generally living unhealthy lifestyles you'll hear no gainsay. I also read an interesting article lately about how certain parasites seem to have co-evolved with our bodies' immune system and help to regulate our immune system; certainly a part of the picture.

I also fail to understand what any of that has to do with the detox box.

*Sigh* at OMFG I did read the OP... and like you said its Ebon who is claiming that the box requires nuclear fission to work not the makers of the box. Your attacks on me are immature. Please attack the issue and not me.

There are lots of eye witness accounts to Rife curing peoples cancers with this machine you just have to look it up. The fact that for every one of these websites you find one calling him a con-man or trying to discredit him isn't surprising. Like I said in a previous post the government had the drug companies would allow a cure for a deasese that makes them so much money. I

It's not the only time this has happened, watch A World Without Cancer http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507
It's a fact the Hunza people have never had a case of cancer on their traditional diet, neither have the Eskimos on theirs. There is a scare campain going on trying to tell people that Amygdalin (contained within the Apricot seeds that the Hunza people eat and the Elk the the Eskimos eat) is poisonous. Try telling that to the Hunza people who regulary live past 100 and don't get cancer. I eat apricot seeds and I haven't died from it yet.

Yes, some long-term diseases can cause cancer (HPV comes to mind), but it's usually not the microbe itself that causes cancer. Rather, the damage to cells increases the amount of replacement cells that must be made, increasing the number of cellular divisions. Each division is a chance for the DNA to be mis-copied. Too many mis-copies, and what you have is cancer. But the basic cause of cancer is, and has always been, a screw-up in the cellular-division-monitoring-process. (I think my source is somewhere within this SciAm article)

Also, there's a claim that electron scanning microscopes destroy the specimen. Well, these pollen grains don't look destroyed, and neither did the excellent picture of eye cones and rods in my Science Year by Year book.

Finally, I think even Wikipedia would be a better source that a website with http://www.rife.de as its domain name. Looks like somebody died from this machine.