Comments on: Blogroll Meme http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:53:13 +0000 By: Erich Vieth http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-30078 Erich Vieth Tue, 08 Jan 2008 03:15:35 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-30078 Adam: You are kind and generous with your comments about Dangerous Intersection. Thank you for the plug. As many of your readers know, DI is a better blog that otherwise, thanks to your willingness to post at DI with some regularity. I make it a habit to visit Daylight Athesism to be challenged, educated, and to enjoy the impeccable writing. Congratulations on entering a new year at DA! Adam: You are kind and generous with your comments about Dangerous Intersection. Thank you for the plug. As many of your readers know, DI is a better blog that otherwise, thanks to your willingness to post at DI with some regularity.

I make it a habit to visit Daylight Athesism to be challenged, educated, and to enjoy the impeccable writing. Congratulations on entering a new year at DA!

]]> By: Aferim http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29959 Aferim Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:24:40 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29959 I think it would be utterly immoral to advertise my brand-new website about religion and political science. I mean, I couldn't just post a <a href="http://aferim.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> link </a> to it here. Traffic and links have to be earned the hard way! :) I think it would be utterly immoral to advertise my brand-new website about religion and political science. I mean, I couldn't just post a link to it here.

Traffic and links have to be earned the hard way!

:)

]]> By: plonkee @ the religious atheist http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29901 plonkee @ the religious atheist Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:55:33 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29901 Well, I've been tagged for this meme on my blog that I think probably deserves to be more widely known, <a href="http://thereligiousatheist.com" rel="nofollow">thereligiousatheist.com</a> where I talk about religion, science, and random musings from a skeptical point of view. If anyone wants to check it out, feel free to stop on by - it's new-ish but I really welcome comments and/or criticism. Well, I've been tagged for this meme on my blog that I think probably deserves to be more widely known, thereligiousatheist.com where I talk about religion, science, and random musings from a skeptical point of view. If anyone wants to check it out, feel free to stop on by - it's new-ish but I really welcome comments and/or criticism.

]]> By: Karen http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29890 Karen Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:54:05 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29890 I am an (infrequent) contributor, frequent commenter on the <a href="http://de-conversion.com" rel="nofollow">deconversion blog</a>, which offers resources for skeptical, deconverting or former Christians. It's a great place where former hard-core believers like myself can compare notes on issues like how to deal with dismayed family members. We also get a fair number of evangelicals who not only come in to preach us back to faith but often stick around for some good dialogue when the preaching fails. I am an (infrequent) contributor, frequent commenter on the deconversion blog, which offers resources for skeptical, deconverting or former Christians. It's a great place where former hard-core believers like myself can compare notes on issues like how to deal with dismayed family members. We also get a fair number of evangelicals who not only come in to preach us back to faith but often stick around for some good dialogue when the preaching fails.

]]> By: Rowan http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29883 Rowan Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:40:55 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29883 Slacktivist is a fantastic website. Left Behind Fridays are one of the high points of my week. Slacktivist is a fantastic website. Left Behind Fridays are one of the high points of my week.

]]> By: theistscientist http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29880 theistscientist Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:07:34 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29880 I am new to blogging, I came over from IIDB, I didnt realize multiple conversations had a different effect on a blog scroll than on a message board forum, I sincerely apologize, some of the discussions were going rather slow, as in no one was responding, so I just moved on to other topics.my bad. pleae allow me to redeem myself. I am new to blogging, I came over from IIDB, I didnt realize multiple conversations had a different effect on a blog scroll than on a message board forum, I sincerely apologize, some of the discussions were going rather slow, as in no one was responding, so I just moved on to other topics.my bad. pleae allow me to redeem myself.

]]> By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29873 Ebonmuse Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:56:16 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29873 No, that's not possible, I'm afraid; it would put too much load on the database. (I agree that it's bad manners to start new conversations in half a dozen threads at once. Start one discussion and then finish it before moving on.) However, each post does have a link at the bottom you can use to subscribe to an RSS feed of new comments just for that thread. No, that's not possible, I'm afraid; it would put too much load on the database. (I agree that it's bad manners to start new conversations in half a dozen threads at once. Start one discussion and then finish it before moving on.) However, each post does have a link at the bottom you can use to subscribe to an RSS feed of new comments just for that thread.

]]> By: Tomas S http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29872 Tomas S Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:11:04 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29872 Not sure where else to ask this ... but is it possible to see "recent comments" back more than six items deep? I have the feeling sometimes that if I blink, I'm missing recnet comments (especially with Theist Scientist commenting on seven entries in a row.) Not sure where else to ask this ... but is it possible to see "recent comments" back more than six items deep? I have the feeling sometimes that if I blink, I'm missing recnet comments (especially with Theist Scientist commenting on seven entries in a row.)

]]> By: Lynet http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29870 Lynet Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:32:45 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29870 <blockquote>I think all of us know what any president would do(even if they did it plausibly deniably) if we captured a terrorist who we knew , knew the location of a nuclear device in a large U.S. city about to be detonated. I think an atheist president, or a theist presdient would issue an executive order authorizing waterboarding and then some of the terrorist.</blockquote> That's <i>not</i> what's happening now. That's <i>not</i> a situation that laws should be written to include. The law should state that it's wrong to torture people. Always. Entreme and unlikely situations like that one should not be used to justify cruel and inhuman punishment involving the erosion of centuries of justice and principle. In the unlikely event of a situation like that actually occurring, it wouldn't just be worth torturing that person -- it would be worth having the president lose his or her job for breaking the law by ordering it. That possibility -- of having the president be forced to step down or face prosecution and of having to torture the prisoner -- is worth risking for the sake of a legal system that does not allow the sort of abuse that is occurring at present.

I think all of us know what any president would do(even if they did it plausibly deniably) if we captured a terrorist who we knew , knew the location of a nuclear device in a large U.S. city about to be detonated. I think an atheist president, or a theist presdient would issue an executive order authorizing waterboarding and then some of the terrorist.

That's not what's happening now. That's not a situation that laws should be written to include. The law should state that it's wrong to torture people. Always. Entreme and unlikely situations like that one should not be used to justify cruel and inhuman punishment involving the erosion of centuries of justice and principle.

In the unlikely event of a situation like that actually occurring, it wouldn't just be worth torturing that person -- it would be worth having the president lose his or her job for breaking the law by ordering it. That possibility -- of having the president be forced to step down or face prosecution and of having to torture the prisoner -- is worth risking for the sake of a legal system that does not allow the sort of abuse that is occurring at present.

]]> By: theistscientist http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29867 theistscientist Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:22:34 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/01/blogroll-meme.html#comment-29867 alex, I've been using the socratic method to teach graduate students for twenty five years. All you have to do is switch the hypo. Instead of torturing the terrorist, you torture one of his adult relatives in his presence [this IS reliable and can be proven to be reliable],(its horrible, but it is reliable,and no I am not aspirationally advocating it) and i respectfully disagree that pow is just a weasle word in the geneva convention. Spies just dont get that level of protection. Maybe they should but legally they just dont. Those that dont wear uniforms and carry military identification are treated differently. I am curious, what is your opinion on the execution of the Rosenbergs? OK city bomber? Saddam Hussein? Osama Bin Laden? And if you say itis ok to execute some of these, are you saying it would be ok to exctue them after the fact, but never to torture them before the fact, even if we had a [chance] of getting info from them which would prevent the (fact)? alex, I've been using the socratic method to teach graduate students for twenty five years. All you have to do is switch the hypo. Instead of torturing the terrorist, you torture one of his adult relatives in his presence [this IS reliable and can be proven to be reliable],(its horrible, but it is reliable,and no I am not aspirationally advocating it) and i respectfully disagree that pow is just a weasle word in the geneva convention. Spies just dont get that level of protection. Maybe they should but legally they just dont. Those that dont wear uniforms and carry military identification are treated differently. I am curious, what is your opinion on the execution of the Rosenbergs? OK city bomber? Saddam Hussein? Osama Bin Laden? And if you say itis ok to execute some of these, are you saying it would be ok to exctue them after the fact, but never to torture them before the fact, even if we had a [chance] of getting info from them which would prevent the (fact)?

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