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	<title>Comments on: Popular Delusions IX: Numerology</title>
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	<description>NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon,  1 Dec 2008 17:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
	
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		<title>By: Lynet</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-34025</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numerology has got to be a textbook example of seeing patterns where there are none.  There are so many lovely &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; patterns in numbers, too!  I suppose that exacerbates the problem.

So am I bad that I thought it was cool that I turned thirteen on a Friday the thirteenth?  (Nothing terrible happened. If was fun imagining all the scary things that might, though).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numerology has got to be a textbook example of seeing patterns where there are none.  There are so many lovely <i>real</i> patterns in numbers, too!  I suppose that exacerbates the problem.</p>
<p>So am I bad that I thought it was cool that I turned thirteen on a Friday the thirteenth?  (Nothing terrible happened. If was fun imagining all the scary things that might, though).</p>
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		<title>By: Mrnaglfar</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-34011</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrnaglfar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say someone fire up their wingdings font and keep typing things until something threatening comes up. That font is in on all these conspiracies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say someone fire up their wingdings font and keep typing things until something threatening comes up. That font is in on all these conspiracies!</p>
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		<title>By: Nes</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-34010</link>
		<dc:creator>Nes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought that trick was actually done with one of the flight numbers involved, but I just tried to reproduce it and also failed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I recall, the flight number (which I don't think was one of the actual flight numbers, it was just claimed that it was) produced a skull and crossbones, the Star of David, and something else (I had thought a hypodermic needle, though I don't see that in the Wingdings font that I have), not necessarily in that order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen:</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought that trick was actually done with one of the flight numbers involved, but I just tried to reproduce it and also failed.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I recall, the flight number (which I don't think was one of the actual flight numbers, it was just claimed that it was) produced a skull and crossbones, the Star of David, and something else (I had thought a hypodermic needle, though I don't see that in the Wingdings font that I have), not necessarily in that order.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33995</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always considered the lack of a thirteenth floor in buildings to be a charming and harmless cultural quirk.  I rather hope it continues.  Anybody with actual 13 superstitions won't be fooled by relabeling the elevator button, anyway.

A few years ago I was sitting on the bus and I noticed a guy playing with numbers on a little notepad sitting next to me.  I have always been a little interested in math, despite not having a head for it, so I was probably staring as I challenged myself to figure out what kind of math he was doing just from the equations he was using.  He caught me staring and said, with that indulgent old man tone, "Oh, are you interested in numerology?"

I said I was interested in math and he apparently assumed they were the same thing, because he went on to explain how he was using numbers from the bible to predict lottery numbers.  He flipped back through the notebook and explained how he had failed to multiply or add or square root before he subtracted or cubed, so therefore he had played the wrong numbers.  To his credit, he was keeping track of lottery numbers and comparing them to the numbers he actually played, almost like he was actually testing himself… except it never even occurred to him that the entire system might be flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've always considered the lack of a thirteenth floor in buildings to be a charming and harmless cultural quirk.  I rather hope it continues.  Anybody with actual 13 superstitions won't be fooled by relabeling the elevator button, anyway.</p>
<p>A few years ago I was sitting on the bus and I noticed a guy playing with numbers on a little notepad sitting next to me.  I have always been a little interested in math, despite not having a head for it, so I was probably staring as I challenged myself to figure out what kind of math he was doing just from the equations he was using.  He caught me staring and said, with that indulgent old man tone, "Oh, are you interested in numerology?"</p>
<p>I said I was interested in math and he apparently assumed they were the same thing, because he went on to explain how he was using numbers from the bible to predict lottery numbers.  He flipped back through the notebook and explained how he had failed to multiply or add or square root before he subtracted or cubed, so therefore he had played the wrong numbers.  To his credit, he was keeping track of lottery numbers and comparing them to the numbers he actually played, almost like he was actually testing himself… except it never even occurred to him that the entire system might be flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parra</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33989</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how far does this superstition with the number 13 thing go in these apartments?  Does anyone live in #148?  Or is it kept permanently vacant just because the numbers add up to 13 and it's on the thirteenth floor which is mislabled as the fourteenth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how far does this superstition with the number 13 thing go in these apartments?  Does anyone live in #148?  Or is it kept permanently vacant just because the numbers add up to 13 and it's on the thirteenth floor which is mislabled as the fourteenth?</p>
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		<title>By: corsair the rational pirate</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33968</link>
		<dc:creator>corsair the rational pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While in Korea back in the day, I visited a friend in Seoul whose parents lived in one of those high rise apartment buildings. The floor buttons were labeled 1 - 2 - 3 - F - 5... etc.

"F" of course is the first letter of "Four" and not at all the character pronounced "sa" which is both "three" and the character for "death."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While in Korea back in the day, I visited a friend in Seoul whose parents lived in one of those high rise apartment buildings. The floor buttons were labeled 1 - 2 - 3 - F - 5... etc.</p>
<p>"F" of course is the first letter of "Four" and not at all the character pronounced "sa" which is both "three" and the character for "death."</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Swanson</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33959</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, I notice that you live in a building with it's own club. Pretty sweet! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, I notice that you live in a building with it's own club. Pretty sweet! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rose / Intergalactic Hussy</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33958</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose / Intergalactic Hussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a building with no 13th floor and always joke with my friends on the 14th floor, "How does it feel to be on the real 13th floor"...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a building with no 13th floor and always joke with my friends on the 14th floor, "How does it feel to be on the real 13th floor"...lol</p>
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		<title>By: InTheImageOfDNA</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33955</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheImageOfDNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the state park where I am working at the moment we have cabins that can be rented like hotel rooms.  A woman had called and reserved cabin #11 but due to some circumstance we could not rent it so we informed her that we could give her cabin #13.  She refused and would offer no explanation.  I’d say with certainty it was due to superstition.

To offer a second anecdote on this topic: as a child, I was immersed in a fundamentalist church that preached heavily about the rapture.  Being very young at the time, this type of belief affected me deeply and I developed a sort of quasi-prophetic notion about the supposed event that was imminent.  Jesus “had told me” that when I spotted 7 crossing jet contrails in the sky, then that would signal his return.  It didn’t take long to for seven sightings to mount and when Jesus didn’t split the sky open, I was disappointed.  Needless to say, in the grand tradition of updating and rationalizing failed prophecies, I thought that 7 must not have been the right number and that it should have been 49.  I lost interest before I ever made it to 49.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the state park where I am working at the moment we have cabins that can be rented like hotel rooms.  A woman had called and reserved cabin #11 but due to some circumstance we could not rent it so we informed her that we could give her cabin #13.  She refused and would offer no explanation.  I’d say with certainty it was due to superstition.</p>
<p>To offer a second anecdote on this topic: as a child, I was immersed in a fundamentalist church that preached heavily about the rapture.  Being very young at the time, this type of belief affected me deeply and I developed a sort of quasi-prophetic notion about the supposed event that was imminent.  Jesus “had told me” that when I spotted 7 crossing jet contrails in the sky, then that would signal his return.  It didn’t take long to for seven sightings to mount and when Jesus didn’t split the sky open, I was disappointed.  Needless to say, in the grand tradition of updating and rationalizing failed prophecies, I thought that 7 must not have been the right number and that it should have been 49.  I lost interest before I ever made it to 49.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/04/popular-delusions-ix.html#comment-33951</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominic Self-- Marketers who deal with any product subject to addictive behavior always market to the addict, not to the temperate user.  The basic rule is that 10% of the market uses 90% of the product.  A good way to see this is to look at liquor ads, and you will see how they are geared towards the addict (It's always time for Michelob!) Ebon's example is relevant because the casino cares as much for the business of the gambling addict as it does for the business of ten non-pathological gamblers.
I think this can be applied to the apartment owners, who are more concerned about the person who refuses to rent on the 13th floor than they are about the skeptics who are amused by the phenomenon.  Certainly I would be amused, but it wouldn't keep me from renting in the building if the owners found that they had to cater to the superstitious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominic Self-- Marketers who deal with any product subject to addictive behavior always market to the addict, not to the temperate user.  The basic rule is that 10% of the market uses 90% of the product.  A good way to see this is to look at liquor ads, and you will see how they are geared towards the addict (It's always time for Michelob!) Ebon's example is relevant because the casino cares as much for the business of the gambling addict as it does for the business of ten non-pathological gamblers.<br />
I think this can be applied to the apartment owners, who are more concerned about the person who refuses to rent on the 13th floor than they are about the skeptics who are amused by the phenomenon.  Certainly I would be amused, but it wouldn't keep me from renting in the building if the owners found that they had to cater to the superstitious.</p>
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