Comments on: A Letter to Jack Chick http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:49:38 +0000 By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35538 Ebonmuse Tue, 13 May 2008 03:57:39 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35538 If you believe tracts like this, it does seem that Satan has rather better customer service. If you believe tracts like this, it does seem that Satan has rather better customer service.

]]> By: StaceyJW http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35537 StaceyJW Tue, 13 May 2008 03:38:28 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35537 What I wanna know is.... Where was god?- In the tract you mentioned "The Contract", a poor, old farmer with a crippled son loses his farm to the bank after a hail storm ruins his crops. Couldn't god stop the hail? Miraculously save the crop after the hail? Given him money? Made the banker forgive the loan or give him an extension? Why leave this poor old man alone to be tricked by Beezlebub anyway? (oooh, how scary- Beezlebub- like Beetlejuice) BUT NOOOOOOO-god did NOTHING. I guess SATAN came through for the poor guy when god wouldn't. What I wanna know is....
Where was god?- In the tract you mentioned "The Contract", a poor, old farmer with a crippled son loses his farm to the bank after a hail storm ruins his crops.

Couldn't god stop the hail? Miraculously save the crop after the hail? Given him money? Made the banker forgive the loan or give him an extension? Why leave this poor old man alone to be tricked by Beezlebub anyway? (oooh, how scary- Beezlebub- like Beetlejuice)
BUT NOOOOOOO-god did NOTHING.
I guess SATAN came through for the poor guy when god wouldn't.

]]> By: Liquid X http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35485 Liquid X Sun, 11 May 2008 20:01:12 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35485 GOD LOVES YOU! HE'S GOING TO KILL YOU! GOD LOVES YOU! HE'S GOING TO KILL YOU!

]]> By: nfpendleton http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35388 nfpendleton Thu, 08 May 2008 03:37:18 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35388 Another interesting Chick quirk is his rejection of the cross/crucifix as symbol of christianity. He (rightly) traces it back to its pagan origins and associates it with the satanic antichrist catholic church. And RE: Chick parodies, my favorite is at Armed and Dangerous. If you appreciate H.P. Lovecraft, I think you'll like this. http://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=135 Another interesting Chick quirk is his rejection of the cross/crucifix as symbol of christianity. He (rightly) traces it back to its pagan origins and associates it with the satanic antichrist catholic church.

And RE: Chick parodies, my favorite is at Armed and Dangerous. If you appreciate H.P. Lovecraft, I think you'll like this. http://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=135

]]> By: Brock http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35381 Brock Wed, 07 May 2008 16:45:35 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35381 By the way, check the following site for Chick parodies and other "anti-tracts" http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/llf2.html#Anti-Tracts By the way, check the following site for Chick parodies and other "anti-tracts" http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/llf2.html#Anti-Tracts

]]> By: nfpendleton http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35365 nfpendleton Wed, 07 May 2008 01:59:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35365 As a comics geek, I have a modest collection of Chick Tracts (approx. 100). It's the nearest best thing to having a fundy's head cracked open so you can peer in at the paranoia, fear, and delusional dogma inside. I would recommend checking out "Somebody Loves Me," though. The format is simple and the art a bit crude, but it's extremely moving and pulls no punches about how cruel the world can be to the innocent. (All tracts are viewable for free on the website as part of Jack's "evangelical mission.") As a comics geek, I have a modest collection of Chick Tracts (approx. 100). It's the nearest best thing to having a fundy's head cracked open so you can peer in at the paranoia, fear, and delusional dogma inside.

I would recommend checking out "Somebody Loves Me," though. The format is simple and the art a bit crude, but it's extremely moving and pulls no punches about how cruel the world can be to the innocent. (All tracts are viewable for free on the website as part of Jack's "evangelical mission.")

]]> By: Polly http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35351 Polly Tue, 06 May 2008 20:51:44 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35351 OMFSM! I just had a flashback involving the Chick website. Shortly before I started questioning xianity, I stumbled onto his lengthy explanation about why the KJV is the only legit version of the Bible. His diatribe about how questionable all the other versions were and what manuscripts were used is what got me curious about HOW the Bible was put together in the first place. ("Who Wrote the Bible" is what clinched it for me) In a very real but indirect way he set me on my path to ATHEISM. So, thank you Jack Chick! OMFSM! I just had a flashback involving the Chick website. Shortly before I started questioning xianity, I stumbled onto his lengthy explanation about why the KJV is the only legit version of the Bible.

His diatribe about how questionable all the other versions were and what manuscripts were used is what got me curious about HOW the Bible was put together in the first place. ("Who Wrote the Bible" is what clinched it for me)

In a very real but indirect way he set me on my path to ATHEISM.

So, thank you Jack Chick!

]]> By: Polly http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35344 Polly Tue, 06 May 2008 16:59:39 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35344 I may have mentioned this before, but some Chick tracks are translated into every language you can think of. If you can't find much dual-language "literature" for foreign language acquisition, then it's a pretty good site. Speaking of bargains with the devil: In moments of extreme doubt, when I was a believer, I would almost wish for a satanic encounter so that I could at least see some proof that this crap was for real. The reasoning went as follows: God won't do "parlor tricks" beacause he wants faith - for whatever reason. But, Satan and/or his minions probably don't have any ethical issues about geting involved and even showing off a little. If he would make an appearance, blow some books off the shelf, etc. then I'd know that this stuff is real for sure. Needless to say, I never tried this for fear of losing my soul. I may have mentioned this before, but some Chick tracks are translated into every language you can think of. If you can't find much dual-language "literature" for foreign language acquisition, then it's a pretty good site.

Speaking of bargains with the devil:
In moments of extreme doubt, when I was a believer, I would almost wish for a satanic encounter so that I could at least see some proof that this crap was for real.
The reasoning went as follows:
God won't do "parlor tricks" beacause he wants faith - for whatever reason. But, Satan and/or his minions probably don't have any ethical issues about geting involved and even showing off a little. If he would make an appearance, blow some books off the shelf, etc. then I'd know that this stuff is real for sure.

Needless to say, I never tried this for fear of losing my soul.

]]> By: Alex http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35278 Alex Mon, 05 May 2008 11:06:25 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35278 I like your idea, but I think you can further hedge your bets. What if, in the end, it is the catholics who got it right? For this eventuality, you can use a little known, but very interesting promotional offer of the catholic faith, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart#Promises_of_the_Sacred_Heart" rel="nofollow">The promise of the Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ to St Marguerite Marie Alacoque</a>: <cite> In the excess of the mercy of my Heart, I promise you that my all powerful love will grant to all those who will receive Communion on the First Fridays, for nine consecutive months, the grace of final repentance: they will not die in my displeasure, nor without receiving the sacraments; and my Heart will be their secure refuge in that last hour. </cite> In your scheme, you have to sincerely believe in Jesus at the end of your life to be saved. This promise garantees just that, so it is fail-safe. It will only take nine Fridays of your life, and there is nothing interesting on TV on Fridays, anyway. Very good value, in my opinion. I like your idea, but I think you can further hedge your bets. What if, in the end, it is the catholics who got it right?
For this eventuality, you can use a little known, but very interesting promotional offer of the catholic faith, The promise of the Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ to St Marguerite Marie Alacoque:

In the excess of the mercy of my Heart, I promise you that my all powerful love will grant to all those who will receive Communion on the First Fridays, for nine consecutive months, the grace of final repentance: they will not die in my displeasure, nor without receiving the sacraments; and my Heart will be their secure refuge in that last hour.

In your scheme, you have to sincerely believe in Jesus at the end of your life to be saved. This promise garantees just that, so it is fail-safe. It will only take nine Fridays of your life, and there is nothing interesting on TV on Fridays, anyway.
Very good value, in my opinion.

]]> By: Modusoperandi http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/a-letter-to-jack-chick.html#comment-35251 Modusoperandi Sun, 04 May 2008 08:58:21 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=563#comment-35251 Wow, that Big Daddy comic sure brings out the creationist tropes. From the very first frame (with "our father" being an ape), to the teacher's "no mentioning the Bible in school" (which is actually "no school mandated prayer", helpfully explained in the footnote that the evil, secular teacher is getting it wrong. It is, however illegal to teach creationism in science class, thank god), to Carbon-14 (which only works out to 60,000-80,000 years ago, ignoring the other methods for older specimens, like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-argon_dating" rel="nofollow">potassium-argon</a> and the like), to the "six basic concepts of evolution" (which conflate biological evolution with the Big Bang, "chemical evolution", star/planet formation, and abiogenesis. Also, the creationistic "kinds"...which, oddly, the teacher appears to have written on the board), to Lucy being an "unusual chimpanzee (unusual enough to walk upright, apparently. That's pretty unusual, I'd say. That's the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis" rel="nofollow">new species</a> kind of unusual), to the teacher holding up a single bone while he talks of the ascent of man (implying that the whole chain is filled in that way), to the teacher's "science always has the answers!" (which is something that good scientists never say, but fundamentalists tend to imply of their own philosophy), to frauds and failures (which scientists found and corrected)...including Piltdown man (oh, how creationists <i>love</i> Piltdown man!) and "Neanderthal man" (with text implying that we've only found one, and that that one wasn't a Neanderthal...which means that this one old man <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neanderthal_sites" rel="nofollow">really got around</a>)...only halfway through and the outright lies, manglings and logical fallacies have made me die a little, inside. I used to read a comic, published on the internet, that parodied people with this "worldview". For his last post, the artist linked to a typical news story of fundamentalism gone amok, with his comment lamenting his inability to parody what is essentially a parody of itself, already. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law" rel="nofollow">Poe's law</a>, I guess. His head would've popped if he'd read some of the messed up things that D'souza has written to give himself yet another opportunity to push his books. Wow, that Big Daddy comic sure brings out the creationist tropes. From the very first frame (with "our father" being an ape), to the teacher's "no mentioning the Bible in school" (which is actually "no school mandated prayer", helpfully explained in the footnote that the evil, secular teacher is getting it wrong. It is, however illegal to teach creationism in science class, thank god), to Carbon-14 (which only works out to 60,000-80,000 years ago, ignoring the other methods for older specimens, like potassium-argon and the like), to the "six basic concepts of evolution" (which conflate biological evolution with the Big Bang, "chemical evolution", star/planet formation, and abiogenesis. Also, the creationistic "kinds"...which, oddly, the teacher appears to have written on the board), to Lucy being an "unusual chimpanzee (unusual enough to walk upright, apparently. That's pretty unusual, I'd say. That's the new species kind of unusual), to the teacher holding up a single bone while he talks of the ascent of man (implying that the whole chain is filled in that way), to the teacher's "science always has the answers!" (which is something that good scientists never say, but fundamentalists tend to imply of their own philosophy), to frauds and failures (which scientists found and corrected)...including Piltdown man (oh, how creationists love Piltdown man!) and "Neanderthal man" (with text implying that we've only found one, and that that one wasn't a Neanderthal...which means that this one old man really got around)...only halfway through and the outright lies, manglings and logical fallacies have made me die a little, inside.

I used to read a comic, published on the internet, that parodied people with this "worldview". For his last post, the artist linked to a typical news story of fundamentalism gone amok, with his comment lamenting his inability to parody what is essentially a parody of itself, already. Poe's law, I guess. His head would've popped if he'd read some of the messed up things that D'souza has written to give himself yet another opportunity to push his books.

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