Comments on: A Riotous Diversity http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:29:36 +0000 By: velkyn http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36949 velkyn Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:57:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36949 "God has no official definition. It encompasses things as varied as the Pharoahs, the Emperors of Japan, Jovenah, Pelor, Allah, Zeus, Isis and me when I have the orbital death rays in place." No,Sam. It may be that "god" might have those associations, but "God" doesn't. "God has no official definition. It encompasses things as varied as the Pharoahs, the Emperors of Japan, Jovenah, Pelor, Allah, Zeus, Isis and me when I have the orbital death rays in place."

No,Sam. It may be that "god" might have those associations, but "God" doesn't.

]]> By: bestonnet http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36923 bestonnet Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:06:05 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36923 Jim: I think what was posted was intended as sarcasm. corsair the pirate<blockquote>Oops, fixed my previous entry (you need a preview mode)</blockquote>There is one, it may not be good but it does exist. Jim: I think what was posted was intended as sarcasm.

corsair the pirate

Oops, fixed my previous entry (you need a preview mode)

There is one, it may not be good but it does exist.

]]> By: Jim Baerg http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36922 Jim Baerg Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:01:03 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36922 Corsair: It wasn't all that long ago that some people would exclaim 'By Jove'. Do you take that as evidence that the god Jupiter exists? Corsair:
It wasn't all that long ago that some people would exclaim 'By Jove'. Do you take that as evidence that the god Jupiter exists?

]]> By: corsair the pirate http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36921 corsair the pirate Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:44:33 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36921 Oops, fixed my previous entry (you need a preview mode): Obviously you didn't know that there really are no atheists. <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/charles_w_chuck_colson/2008/07/there_are_no_atheists.html" rel="nofollow">This guy</a> can attest to that: There Are No Atheists On a cross-country flight some years ago, we hit severe turbulence. The gentleman in the seat next to me who had been insisting vehemently that he was an atheist shouted out loud, “God help us.” Yes, even atheists pray because the image of God is implanted in us. Independent studies have showed that we yearn to know God. It’s the way we’re wired. So to be an atheist takes a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that which deep down we all know to be true. I have, in fact, never met an atheist. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me the proof that God does not exist. I’ve never had anyone successfully respond to that question. Most retreat and say they’re really agnostics. I then ask them if they have examined every religion exhaustively. Their answer is usually no. I explain they cannot be agnostics unless they are sure that God can’t be known. There are no atheists. There are simply people whose pride overwhelms their innate knowledge. Oops, fixed my previous entry (you need a preview mode):

Obviously you didn't know that there really are no atheists. This guy can attest to that:

There Are No Atheists

On a cross-country flight some years ago, we hit severe turbulence. The gentleman in the seat next to me who had been insisting vehemently that he was an atheist shouted out loud, “God help us.”

Yes, even atheists pray because the image of God is implanted in us. Independent studies have showed that we yearn to know God. It’s the way we’re wired. So to be an atheist takes a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that which deep down we all know to be true.

I have, in fact, never met an atheist. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me the proof that God does not exist. I’ve never had anyone successfully respond to that question. Most retreat and say they’re really agnostics. I then ask them if they have examined every religion exhaustively. Their answer is usually no. I explain they cannot be agnostics unless they are sure that God can’t be known.

There are no atheists. There are simply people whose pride overwhelms their innate knowledge.

]]> By: bestonnet http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36920 bestonnet Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:47:39 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36920 Why does anyone expect an atheist to offer proof that there's no god? The theists need to show some proof that there is a god before it's even worth the atheist for any comments (since atheism is just assumed if there's no evidence to contradict it). Why does anyone expect an atheist to offer proof that there's no god?

The theists need to show some proof that there is a god before it's even worth the atheist for any comments (since atheism is just assumed if there's no evidence to contradict it).

]]> By: corsair the pirate http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36916 corsair the pirate Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:53:02 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36916 Obviously you didn't know that there really are no atheists. <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/charles_w_chuck_colson/2008/07/there_are_no_atheists.html" rel="nofollow">This guy</a><a> can attest to that: There Are No Atheists On a cross-country flight some years ago, we hit severe turbulence. The gentleman in the seat next to me who had been insisting vehemently that he was an atheist shouted out loud, “God help us.” Yes, even atheists pray because the image of God is implanted in us. Independent studies have showed that we yearn to know God. It’s the way we’re wired. So to be an atheist takes a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that which deep down we all know to be true. I have, in fact, never met an atheist. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me the proof that God does not exist. I’ve never had anyone successfully respond to that question. Most retreat and say they’re really agnostics. I then ask them if they have examined every religion exhaustively. Their answer is usually no. I explain they cannot be agnostics unless they are sure that God can’t be known. There are no atheists. There are simply people whose pride overwhelms their innate knowledge.</a> Obviously you didn't know that there really are no atheists. This guy can attest to that:

There Are No Atheists

On a cross-country flight some years ago, we hit severe turbulence. The gentleman in the seat next to me who had been insisting vehemently that he was an atheist shouted out loud, “God help us.”

Yes, even atheists pray because the image of God is implanted in us. Independent studies have showed that we yearn to know God. It’s the way we’re wired. So to be an atheist takes a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that which deep down we all know to be true.

I have, in fact, never met an atheist. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me the proof that God does not exist. I’ve never had anyone successfully respond to that question. Most retreat and say they’re really agnostics. I then ask them if they have examined every religion exhaustively. Their answer is usually no. I explain they cannot be agnostics unless they are sure that God can’t be known.

There are no atheists. There are simply people whose pride overwhelms their innate knowledge.

]]> By: Joffan http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36874 Joffan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:56:25 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36874 Because the term "atheist" is so misunderstood, public figures who happen to be atheist will find it inconvenient to admit as much - especially those whose status requires public approval, like politicians and actors. The immediate public reaction is that <i>atheism = immorality</i>. Even if they were to hedge their declaration about with descriptive phrases that describe their abiding faith in humanity's power for good and the strength of social commitment, the detail would still get lost in the general uproar. Even if what I just wrote is untrue, and the populace is actually more tolerant than that, the perception is still that admitting to a God-free universe is a high-risk public strategy. Because the term "atheist" is so misunderstood, public figures who happen to be atheist will find it inconvenient to admit as much - especially those whose status requires public approval, like politicians and actors. The immediate public reaction is that atheism = immorality.

Even if they were to hedge their declaration about with descriptive phrases that describe their abiding faith in humanity's power for good and the strength of social commitment, the detail would still get lost in the general uproar.

Even if what I just wrote is untrue, and the populace is actually more tolerant than that, the perception is still that admitting to a God-free universe is a high-risk public strategy.

]]> By: Samuel Skinner http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36873 Samuel Skinner Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:51:46 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36873 God has no official definition. It encompasses things as varied as the Pharoahs, the Emperors of Japan, Jovenah, Pelor, Allah, Zeus, Isis and me when I have the orbital death rays in place. It has no agreed upon component aside from being supernatural in some way and worthy of reverance and prayer. Universal spirit is essentially pantheism, which is a form of theism, esspecially when it is claimed to be able to interact with reality. God has no official definition. It encompasses things as varied as the Pharoahs, the Emperors of Japan, Jovenah, Pelor, Allah, Zeus, Isis and me when I have the orbital death rays in place.

It has no agreed upon component aside from being supernatural in some way and worthy of reverance and prayer.

Universal spirit is essentially pantheism, which is a form of theism, esspecially when it is claimed to be able to interact with reality.

]]> By: Erich Vieth http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36872 Erich Vieth Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:39:16 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36872 BTW, the actual wordings of the questions of this provocative survey can be found at the site of The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. For example, one of the exact questions was <a href="http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/table-belief-in-god-or-universal-spirit-by-religious-tradition.pdf" rel="nofollow">"Do you believe in God or a universal spirit?" </a> The exact wordings of other questions can be found at <a href="http://religions.pewforum.org/reports#" rel="nofollow">the bottoms of these data tables. </a> BTW, the actual wordings of the questions of this provocative survey can be found at the site of The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

For example, one of the exact questions was "Do you believe in God or a universal spirit?"

The exact wordings of other questions can be found at the bottoms of these data tables.

]]> By: velkyn http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/07/a-riotous-diversity.html#comment-36866 velkyn Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:15:25 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=772#comment-36866 It's my opinion that the word "God" means one thing, the Christian God of the Bible. To use it to describe anything else is very confusing. however, to say that one believes in a god or a "universal spirit" (which seems to me to be only an attempt to get away from the "g" word) and say one is an atheist, means that one is simply ignorant on what atheist means and one should ask what it means before making such a mistake. However, I can understand why most people are so stupid, they simply don't read anything that they don't have to. It's my opinion that the word "God" means one thing, the Christian God of the Bible. To use it to describe anything else is very confusing.

however, to say that one believes in a god or a "universal spirit" (which seems to me to be only an attempt to get away from the "g" word) and say one is an atheist, means that one is simply ignorant on what atheist means and one should ask what it means before making such a mistake. However, I can understand why most people are so stupid, they simply don't read anything that they don't have to.

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