Comments on: On Christian Hypocrites http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:09:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: steve jaubert http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-51672 steve jaubert Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:08:25 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-51672 I've met a lot of christian people at church and generally its a nice congregation of potential that seems to always fall way short of the stated goals. I guess people want to feel like there is more to life and of course there is but then you get all this play acting and manipulation and it all goes downhill. I've met a couple of ex relationships at the house of god and talk about problems. I will never take any help from anyone in any church again. I've found that when i did they wanted to control me rather than let me freely find out things on my own and that type of help is really doomed from the start. Sometimes when you find out where they are coming from they don't like it and rather than face the facts they see you as someone who was evil and out to do them harm. When i go to church its by myself to pray to god but most of the time its by myself in a quiet peaceful place like at home listening to music. Who needs a cathedral or a mosque or a tent? God is around if you want to be part of god. Steve Jaubert I've met a lot of christian people at church and generally its a nice congregation of potential that seems to always fall way short of the stated goals. I guess people
want to feel like there is more to life and of course there is but then you get all
this play acting and manipulation and it all goes downhill. I've met a couple of ex relationships at the house of god and talk about problems. I will never take any help from anyone in any church again. I've found that when i did they wanted to control me rather than let me freely find out things on my own and that type of help is really doomed from the start. Sometimes when you find out where they are coming from they don't like it and rather than face the facts they see you as someone who was evil and out to do them harm. When i go to church its by myself to pray to god but most of the time its by myself in a quiet peaceful place like at home listening to music. Who needs a cathedral or a mosque or a tent? God is around if you want to be part of god. Steve Jaubert

]]> By: TommyP http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-41893 TommyP Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:45:41 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-41893 @John, Why is it so hard to honestly answer a question, or respond to a point? I'm just amazed at the continual avoidance. @John,

Why is it so hard to honestly answer a question, or respond to a point? I'm just amazed at the continual avoidance.

]]> By: Adam http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-39251 Adam Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:32:04 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-39251 MS, Your arguments and posts are wonderful. I enjoy reading them, thanks. Adam MS,

Your arguments and posts are wonderful. I enjoy reading them, thanks.

Adam

]]> By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-39215 OMGF Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:23:19 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-39215 <blockquote>Remember in the end, the fact that Joe Bloe was a hypocrit does not dismiss my actions and how I conduct myself for Christ.</blockquote> No, it doesn't, and no one is saying that it does. In fact, Ebon touched on that in the OP. (Did you read it?) The argument is against the tenet held forth by some Xians that being a Xian gives one a link to a perfectly moral being or that Xians are inherently more moral by virtue of believing in the true god. Your comment is further evidence that this simply is not so.

Remember in the end, the fact that Joe Bloe was a hypocrit does not dismiss my actions and how I conduct myself for Christ.

No, it doesn't, and no one is saying that it does. In fact, Ebon touched on that in the OP. (Did you read it?) The argument is against the tenet held forth by some Xians that being a Xian gives one a link to a perfectly moral being or that Xians are inherently more moral by virtue of believing in the true god. Your comment is further evidence that this simply is not so.

]]> By: Mr. Bill http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-39203 Mr. Bill Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:06:44 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-39203 Hypocrisy is a difficult problem with which all Christians must understand but not dismiss.For example, I have been working for a Christian software company for a year now and hypocrisy is rampant. Clients are lied to about time lines/deadlines and have to some extent been given the bait and switch.Does it upset me? Yes, it upsets me very much but what I keep reminding myself is that I am responsible for my own life and although I can help others to see their hypocrisy, in the end I can do nothing if they do not want to change.When I feel myself getting bitter I try to immediatly go to scripture and prayer. Remember in the end, the fact that Joe Bloe was a hypocrit does not dismiss my actions and how I conduct myself for Christ. Hypocrisy is a difficult problem with which all Christians must understand but not dismiss.For example, I have been working for a Christian software company for a year now and hypocrisy is rampant. Clients are lied to about time lines/deadlines and have to some extent been given the bait and switch.Does it upset me? Yes, it upsets me very much but what I keep reminding myself is that I am responsible for my own life and although I can help others to see their hypocrisy, in the end I can do nothing if they do not want to change.When I feel myself getting bitter I try to immediatly go to scripture and prayer. Remember in the end, the fact that Joe Bloe was a hypocrit does not dismiss my actions and how I conduct myself for Christ.

]]> By: OMGF http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38372 OMGF Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:29:20 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38372 Eric, I too hope the best for you and your family. Eric,
I too hope the best for you and your family.

]]> By: Nes http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38371 Nes Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:03:06 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38371 I hope Jim gets well, Eric. His is one of the relatively few names that I recognize online, which is generally a good thing considering my terrible memory for names and faces. I hope Jim gets well, Eric. His is one of the relatively few names that I recognize online, which is generally a good thing considering my terrible memory for names and faces.

]]> By: mikespeir http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38355 mikespeir Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:17:09 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38355 Eric, if I thought prayer had one chance in 10,000 of doing any good, I'd be on my knees right now. Even so, you can believe that I, like everyone here, am pulling for your dad. Eric, if I thought prayer had one chance in 10,000 of doing any good, I'd be on my knees right now. Even so, you can believe that I, like everyone here, am pulling for your dad.

]]> By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38352 Ebonmuse Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:18:37 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38352 Yikes, Eric. I hadn't realized that Jim was your father, and it's a shock to learn about this health crisis. I feel as though I just saw him around here. I won't be praying, but you can be assured he'll be in my thoughts and best wishes. If there's anything we can do to help, please let me know. Yikes, Eric. I hadn't realized that Jim was your father, and it's a shock to learn about this health crisis. I feel as though I just saw him around here. I won't be praying, but you can be assured he'll be in my thoughts and best wishes. If there's anything we can do to help, please let me know.

]]> By: Eric http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38350 Eric Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:02:34 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38350 Here is one of the pieces Jim contributed. Let's all hope he pulls out of his medical emergency! http://www.daylightatheism.org/symposium/submissions/one-weak-atheists-source-of-morals Here is one of the pieces Jim contributed. Let's all hope he pulls out of his medical emergency!

http://www.daylightatheism.org/symposium/submissions/one-weak-atheists-source-of-morals

]]> By: Eric http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38347 Eric Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:41:24 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38347 Oh yes, to any othe the "christian" or religious posters here, do NOT insult me or my father by saying "he is in our prayers". That disrepects me and him and my family. Oh yes, to any othe the "christian" or religious posters here, do NOT insult me or my father by saying "he is in our prayers". That disrepects me and him and my family.

]]> By: Eric http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/08/on-christian-hypocrites.html#comment-38346 Eric Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:39:52 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=803#comment-38346 Hi everyone, Just a couple quick notes. First, my busy season is winding down and that is why I have been absent for a few months. As a professional guide in Alaska, summer is busy time! (and I am deeply ashamed that our idiot governor has been appointed VP candidate - but that is another story all in itself) My cross issue in Skagway is still taking place, but I have relocated to another town as the heat I received from "christian" folk in my old hometown was too much to take and the pressure I was given by the chief of police (a born again southern baptist) was getting very uncomfortable, so yes, I moved. Also, my father who is a regular contributor and poster here - Jim Coufal - is in ICU. He underwent a routine rectal biopsy and within 24hrs went into septic shock. He is touch and go right now and I know he would rather be here posting but he is having a rough fight right now. He has been stabilized but is having to have dialysis and we are not sure if he is going to make it. BUT, the prognosis currently is good. So, well wishes to my father, and regular contributor here. Anyway, it is nice having a few moments to check back in and see that you are all still putting forth good thoughts and fighting the good fighht. When fall and winter kick in I will have more time to contribute and upadate you on the cross issue. And I know that when my father heals, he will be back as well. Good thoughts for my pops please! Hi everyone,

Just a couple quick notes. First, my busy season is winding down and that is why I have been absent for a few months. As a professional guide in Alaska, summer is busy time! (and I am deeply ashamed that our idiot governor has been appointed VP candidate - but that is another story all in itself)

My cross issue in Skagway is still taking place, but I have relocated to another town as the heat I received from "christian" folk in my old hometown was too much to take and the pressure I was given by the chief of police (a born again southern baptist) was getting very uncomfortable, so yes, I moved.

Also, my father who is a regular contributor and poster here - Jim Coufal - is in ICU. He underwent a routine rectal biopsy and within 24hrs went into septic shock. He is touch and go right now and I know he would rather be here posting but he is having a rough fight right now. He has been stabilized but is having to have dialysis and we are not sure if he is going to make it. BUT, the prognosis currently is good. So, well wishes to my father, and regular contributor here.

Anyway, it is nice having a few moments to check back in and see that you are all still putting forth good thoughts and fighting the good fighht. When fall and winter kick in I will have more time to contribute and upadate you on the cross issue. And I know that when my father heals, he will be back as well.

Good thoughts for my pops please!

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