Exit Mundi is a pretty good web site though. Geocide is also interesting and who could go past this?

The realistic (or semi-realistic) methods are more interesting than any of the religious doomsday crap.

It always amazes me that these founts of wisdom have never heeded the chestnut proverb: "The watched pot never boils."

It's all clear now! Jesus was just messing with the disciples when he told them to "watch" (e.g. Luke 21:36). That way he'd never have to come back!

"Why would you want it to end tomorrow? Why not during your lifetime, but late in life?"

You missed the point - I don't *want* the world to end (in fact, my desires concerning the end are irrelevent: it will happen whenever it's predisposed towards happening)), but rather I'm not afraid of the end coming. Thus the whole "apocalypse fever" doesn't have much effect on me.

Also Brad,

"And if you care about others, I'd rather the children around me not have to die prematurely. That'd be sad."

The fact of the matter is that all are going to die sooner or later - if everyone died at once there would be no "sadness" asd there would be no one left around to mourn the passing of the human species. All the end of the world would do is speed of process of death - while I'm in no hurry to meet death, the the idea of everyone on earth dying around the same time doesn't intimidate me in the least...

I find it interesting that the author acknowledges that Muslims will never give up their faith and submit to a one-world religion, but exhorts Christians to give up theirs, not for one-world religion, but just because he doesn't think it's legitimate.

Actually, I expect the author exhorts Muslims to give up their religion too. I also expect that he doesn't see Islam as legitimate either. What's your point?

I find it interesting that the author acknowledges that Muslims will never give up their faith and submit to a one-world religion, but exhorts Christians to give up theirs, not for one-world religion, but just because he doesn't think it's legitimate. What else would you carve on tablets of stone for us to obey?

There are a lot of ex-Muslims in the world, just as there are a lot of ex-Christians so it is possible for them to give up their faith.

It's just that it is only a minority in each generation that will actually do it and Islam is behind Christianity in the process of secularisation (most of them also won't just join another religion because they are told to and that is what was stated, or maybe you just lack basic reading comprehension).

People, Christian, Muslim or whatever, shouldn't just give up their religion because those in the reality based community say so but because they understand why it is wrong.

And if you care about others, I'd rather the children around me not have to die prematurely. That'd be sad.

I see no point in attempting to prognosticate the end - it will happen whenever it's predisposed towards happening...

I remember in 1999 Muse (Smithsonian for kids) had a great article on hundreds of end of the world prophecies. Basically it pointed out that the attempts had been going on since Zoroaster and that not one had been right so far.

It scares me how compelling people find these prophecies, which I suppose are the dark side of Heaven. When you say 1)Heaven is utterly wonderful and nothing is better than being there, 2)Living on Earth sucks and dieing is the best thing that can happen to you after you're saved, and 3)If you commit suicide you'll go to Hell, it's not surprising that people want the world to end. It might be sinful to want to die, and most forms of dieing are horrific and painful, but the end of the world promises a swift death (or a rapture which bypasses death completely) followed by unending bliss. The failure of the prophecies doesn't make you abandon them under this mindset, it just disappoints you that your attempt to know God's inscrutable plan has failed and that you are still alive.