If Judah, acting in sin, would have killed Tamar and her unborn child, the lineage of Christ would have ended in a terrible sin.

Wow, it's pretty easy to frustrate an omnipotent god.

Whoever decided to attempt a bash at Christian morality pulled up a bunch of verses that can't and don't second present-day thinking.

What does present day thinking have to do with it? If you wish to use the Bible to support your position, you can't use your modern moral rules and impart them back onto the Bible and claim that you are using the Bible for guidance.

When an abortion was conducted (within the context of the aforementioned verses) it was done so to punish someone.

I know, you said that. And, I wondered aloud how that supports your position in any way. Apparently, god doesn't have a problem with abortions that are done out of punishment? (Which I asked and you seem to have answered, "No." But, then you continue to assert that god set wrote it into the Bible to punish women by giving them abortions, so which is it?)

So YOU tell ME how those verses in any way support the pro-choice movement?

If you are going to argue that abortion should be illegal/immoral/whatever, then how does god saying, "Do it for punishment" make it illegal/immoral/whatever?

Secondly, learn to deduce when reading. No, it is NOT okay to abort for punishment's sake. That was an Old Testament live-and-die-by-the-law tactic.

If you take one second to go back and look at what I wrote, you'll hopefully be embarrassed that you're chiding me for this.

Old Testament (where all the pro-abortion verses of the original post were pulled from) - people lived according to the law. The law included abortion as punishment for adultery.

Now a days - We don't live by Old Testament law. We don't have to perform abortions.

Ah, I do so love to see Xians resorting to relative morality.

Old Testament (where all the pro-abortion verses of the original post were pulled from) - people lived according to the law. The law included abortion as punishment for adultery.
Now a days - We don't live by Old Testament law. We don't have to perform abortions. But we do. Why? Because the women now WANT them.

Ebon isn't looking for biblical justification for abortion, but he is pointing out that there is no O.T justification to oppose it.

HOWEVER, because "God so loved the world...He sent his only Son" to be the spotless sacrifice so we were free to live outside all those laws, rules, and works and still have a chance to stay right with God.

Apart from the ludicrous notion that an almighty universe creating god would need to change the rules (twice if you agree with Islam) I am not aware that anything in the N.T contradicts the impression that the Christian god is any more concerned about fetuses than the Jewish one.

So YOU tell ME how those verses in any way support the pro-choice movement?

Since the pro-choice movement is based on respect for individual liberty and opposition to unnecessary suffering rather than the tribal superstitions of iron-age goat herders, they are relevant only in that they further undermine our opponents' already flawed arguments.

Old Testament (where all the pro-abortion verses of the original post were pulled from) - people lived according to the law. The law included abortion as punishment for adultery.

Now a days - We don't live by Old Testament law. We don't have to perform abortions. But we do. Why? Because the women now WANT them.

This formulation does not make this statement less logically incoherent nor the sentiment less morally insane.

No, I know for a fact not all have.

[Citation needed]

Secondly, learn to deduce when reading. No, it is NOT okay to abort for punishment's sake. That was an Old Testament live-and-die-by-the-law tactic.

Alex, I apologize if I confused you. Here it is in simple terms:

Old Testament (where all the pro-abortion verses of the original post were pulled from) - people lived according to the law. The law included abortion as punishment for adultery.

Now a days - We don't live by Old Testament law. We don't have to perform abortions. But we do. Why? Because the women now WANT them.

Beyond that...do you actually think that anyone who has ever had an abortion in the history of the world wouldn't have prefered to not get pregnant in the first place?

No, I know for a fact not all have.

The bottom line you've missed regarding all your verse references is that the loss of a child was considered a PUNISHMENT.

This has no relationship to anything else in your post and is ethically problematic in all sorts of ways. Beyond that...do you actually think that anyone who has ever had an abortion in the history of the world wouldn't have prefered to not get pregnant in the first place?