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		<title>By: Daylight Atheism &#62; Defending Genocide, Redux</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-65058</link>
		<dc:creator>Daylight Atheism &#62; Defending Genocide, Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while back, I wrote a post about professional Christian apologists who defend genocide as a moral and holy act. As revolting as this is, it&#039;s unsurprising on one level: these people have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daylight Atheism &#62; God Kills A Baby</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-60442</link>
		<dc:creator>Daylight Atheism &#62; God Kills A Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 01:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an observant Bible-reader should not expect from Yahweh. The notions of women as property and corporate guilt are deeply ingrained in the Bible. And yet I find something particularly vindictive about this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an observant Bible-reader should not expect from Yahweh. The notions of women as property and corporate guilt are deeply ingrained in the Bible. And yet I find something particularly vindictive about this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Atheism &#187; The Debate on Biblical Genocide</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-60246</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Sense Atheism &#187; The Debate on Biblical Genocide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Defending Genocide      Written by lukeprog in: Resources &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OMGF</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55953</link>
		<dc:creator>OMGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, um...did Jesus and his dad (self) kill off Yahweh or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, um...did Jesus and his dad (self) kill off Yahweh or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Thumpalumpacus</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55945</link>
		<dc:creator>Thumpalumpacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta love a good curmudgeon.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Bowen</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55944</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apposite quote turned up on Google Quote of the Day this morning
&lt;blockquote&gt;For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the-not-worth-knowing.
  - H. L. Mencken&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apposite quote turned up on Google Quote of the Day this morning</p>
<blockquote><p>For centuries, theologians have been explaining the unknowable in terms of the-not-worth-knowing.<br />
  - H. L. Mencken</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Thumpalumpacus</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55934</link>
		<dc:creator>Thumpalumpacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Many Bible scholars make no attempt to defend The Old Testament. This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see.  What is exactly the word of God is apparently a matter of debate.  What are your criteria?  Do they comport with those of theologians?  Doesn&#039;t this worry you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn&#039;t be part of the Christian Bible or alternately view it as a merely historical (not necessarily factual) document read to contrast the world before Jesus with the world post-Jesus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m unsure what your phrase &quot; ... historical (not neccessarily factual) document ...&quot; actually &lt;i&gt;means&lt;/i&gt;.  Forgive my truculence if I say you sound like you&#039;re trying to have it both ways.  Also, it sounds as if you&#039;re arguing that the world before Jesus was, ahem, evil.


&lt;blockquote&gt;That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, Yahweh is only a &quot;tribal war deity&quot;?  Then why does his son merit any mention?  After all, that&#039;s not my tribe.

By the way, if humans can decide who God and Jesus really are, doesn&#039;t that clearly paint the anthropogenic nature of both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Many Bible scholars make no attempt to defend The Old Testament. This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see.  What is exactly the word of God is apparently a matter of debate.  What are your criteria?  Do they comport with those of theologians?  Doesn't this worry you?</p>
<blockquote><p>Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn't be part of the Christian Bible or alternately view it as a merely historical (not necessarily factual) document read to contrast the world before Jesus with the world post-Jesus.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'm unsure what your phrase " ... historical (not neccessarily factual) document ..." actually <i>means</i>.  Forgive my truculence if I say you sound like you're trying to have it both ways.  Also, it sounds as if you're arguing that the world before Jesus was, ahem, evil.</p>
<blockquote><p>That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, Yahweh is only a "tribal war deity"?  Then why does his son merit any mention?  After all, that's not my tribe.</p>
<p>By the way, if humans can decide who God and Jesus really are, doesn't that clearly paint the anthropogenic nature of both?</p>
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		<title>By: jemand</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55931</link>
		<dc:creator>jemand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daniel, some god then, who let millions of people in thousands of generations die painfully and horribly before deciding to give anyone an image of true divinity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@daniel, some god then, who let millions of people in thousands of generations die painfully and horribly before deciding to give anyone an image of true divinity.</p>
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		<title>By: Modusoperandi</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55930</link>
		<dc:creator>Modusoperandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Daniel&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn&#039;t be part of the Christian Bible...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Hey, it worked for the Cathars.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
Deep theological discussion:
Theo A: &quot;Hey, this bit from the Tanakh makes me uncomfortable. This must mean that it didn&#039;t happen.&quot;
Theo B: &quot;You mean that bit that Jesus and Paul mentioned in the sequel?&quot;
Theo A: &quot;Oh. Well &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; bit here in the Tanakh has no evidence for it. It&#039;s merely hearsay.&quot;
Theo B: &quot;You mean like the New Testament?&quot;
Theo A: &quot;Crap.&quot;
[Buzz]
Theo Supervisor: &quot;Quittin&#039; time, everybody. Your paychecks are in the front. Good work. I&#039;ll see you all on Monday for another round of biblical navel-gazing, where half of you will prove Aquinas right and half will prove him wrong. The third half will prove him both right and wrong via semantic games and verbal gymnastics. Remember to bring your sneakers.&quot;


&lt;i&gt;&quot;That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
It should be pointed out that nobody actually listen to theologians. Sure, when position X needs the veneer of intellectual thought behind it, theologian X&#039;s view will get a mention, but the theologian&#039;s God and the believer&#039;s God are two different things (and more and more so as time goes on. Spong comes to mind). Theology isn&#039;t religion, it&#039;s the science of never being wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Daniel</b> <i>"Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn't be part of the Christian Bible..."</i><br />
Hey, it worked for the Cathars.</p>
<p><i>"This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity."</i><br />
Deep theological discussion:<br />
Theo A: "Hey, this bit from the Tanakh makes me uncomfortable. This must mean that it didn't happen."<br />
Theo B: "You mean that bit that Jesus and Paul mentioned in the sequel?"<br />
Theo A: "Oh. Well <i>this</i> bit here in the Tanakh has no evidence for it. It's merely hearsay."<br />
Theo B: "You mean like the New Testament?"<br />
Theo A: "Crap."<br />
[Buzz]<br />
Theo Supervisor: "Quittin' time, everybody. Your paychecks are in the front. Good work. I'll see you all on Monday for another round of biblical navel-gazing, where half of you will prove Aquinas right and half will prove him wrong. The third half will prove him both right and wrong via semantic games and verbal gymnastics. Remember to bring your sneakers."</p>
<p><i>"That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people."</i><br />
It should be pointed out that nobody actually listen to theologians. Sure, when position X needs the veneer of intellectual thought behind it, theologian X's view will get a mention, but the theologian's God and the believer's God are two different things (and more and more so as time goes on. Spong comes to mind). Theology isn't religion, it's the science of never being wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55926</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Bible scholars make no attempt to defend The Old Testament.  This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity.  Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn&#039;t be part of the Christian Bible or alternately view it as a merely historical (not necessarily factual) document read to contrast the world before Jesus with the world post-Jesus.  That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Bible scholars make no attempt to defend The Old Testament.  This has actually been a matter of deep debate since the earliest days of Christianity.  Many Christians either feel The Old Testament shouldn't be part of the Christian Bible or alternately view it as a merely historical (not necessarily factual) document read to contrast the world before Jesus with the world post-Jesus.  That is to say, many Christians (especially theologians) believe Jesus to be the image of TRUE divinity &amp; Yahweh (or Yahu) to be a tribal war deity shared by the bulk of ancient Semitic people.</p>
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		<title>By: Nickorama</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-55258</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickorama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, he`d have to be some kind of &quot;omnipotent being&quot; to get out of THAT fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he`d have to be some kind of "omnipotent being" to get out of THAT fix.</p>
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		<title>By: OMGF</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2009/09/defending-genocide.html#comment-54680</link>
		<dc:creator>OMGF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Ebon, if you were rational, you&#039;d realize that god was powerless to stop those ancient barbarians from being barbarians.  He had no power to give them rules and laws to follow or to teach them that wholesale slaughter is not OK.  So, you see that he was forced to order them to slaughter their enemies including all the children (and livestock, salt the Earth, etc) because that&#039;s just how things were back then.  god couldn&#039;t do anything about it, his hands were tied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Ebon, if you were rational, you'd realize that god was powerless to stop those ancient barbarians from being barbarians.  He had no power to give them rules and laws to follow or to teach them that wholesale slaughter is not OK.  So, you see that he was forced to order them to slaughter their enemies including all the children (and livestock, salt the Earth, etc) because that's just how things were back then.  god couldn't do anything about it, his hands were tied.</p>
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