Comments on: Theocratic Horror in Uganda

By: Polly

Polly — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:49:02 +0000

I saw this on Slate: Ugandan Pastor Shows Gay Porn To Increase Anti-Gay Support I agree with the closing sentence.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:08:55 +0000

Please, Bassmanpete, don't look down on Africans. According to the textbook Sociology, written by Ian Robertson, page 192, the Lango of eastern Africa are among the societies that have traditionally allowed homosexual male marriage. Unfortunately I don't know if this is the Lango tribe of Uganda, or the much smaller Lango tribe of Sudan. Either way, I don't expect this to last long, as people in Africa are converting to Christianity and Islam, both religions, introduced from the outside of Africa, being traditionally hostile to homosexuality.

By: Thumpalumpacus

Thumpalumpacus — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:56:37 +0000

NPR did a story on this today:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121485018, from which:

If the bill becomes law, a coalition of lawyers and activists will try to kill it in court. Human rights lawyer Ladislaus Rwakafuzi says U.S. evangelicals may be behind the bill.

"It's difficult to tell from looking at this bill to say whether it is homegrown or foreign. The people who are anti-gay are supported by the Christian right from the U.S. It could be possible that there is some external influence," Rwakafuzi says.

U.S. evangelicals have long had a close relationship with top Ugandan leaders. In March, three American evangelicals attended a conference in Kampala on how to turn gay people straight. California minister Scott Lively was a key speaker.

By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:38:56 +0000

Uganda was doing great with its ABC (Abstinance, Be careful, Use Condoms) program, Why meddle with success? Oh, I forgot, the God thing. Let's ignore reality and pretend everyone is going to practice lifelong M/F monogamy and kill gay people to help make this true.

By: bassmanpete

bassmanpete — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:51:09 +0000

And I thought Uganda was coming into the light when it got rid of Idi Amin. Looks like it's a case of one nutter being followed by several more.

staceyjw said: I wish we would leave Africa alone already.......

Too late, unfortunately. What the European colonial powers did was try to bring to iron age tribal societies a level of civilisation that had taken them (the Europeans) centuries to achieve. The main things those tribal societies seem to have learned is a greed for wealth at the expense of the environment, and that modern weapons can bring more power more quickly than spears and clubs. Oh, and that you can use religion as an excuse for all sorts of barbarity.

By: D

Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:33:30 +0000

My roommate recently said, in all seriousness, that he would start believing in God if a meteor took out the Vatican. I think he ought to add a few things to the list. Seriously, this is... argh. I have no words. I'm back to non-practicing KKK thoughts again. This shit is bananas.

By: Leum

Leum — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:18:35 +0000

Keep in mind that Our Fearless Leader only got around to condemning this yesterday. Perhaps he was waiting for Mr. Warren's permission.

By: Staceyjw

Staceyjw — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:14:35 +0000

14 years in a Ugandan jail? You would probably prefer the death penalty...
This bill is still evil and uncivilised, and so obviously a product of our wing nuts. I can't imagine that someone killing a gay person would even get in trouble, this type of thing encourages gay killings.
I wish we would leave Africa alone already.......
Staceyjw

By: Charlotte

Charlotte — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:26:12 +0000

I just read last night that the death penalty and life imprisonment have been removed from the bill, so the maximum sentence is 14 years in prison.
The news site is in German, but there is a little English flag icon near the top which will provide a google translation of the page.

http://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=11507

By: Kit

Kit — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:59:59 +0000

What the hell is wrong with people?! Arrg, I really wish the UN had some teeth and balls right now...

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By: Chris Swanson

Chris Swanson — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:11:54 +0000

Rick Warren's an ass. I wonder where he got his statistic about the Christians "martyred" last year? Probably the same place people get the statistic that nine million women were burned for being witches.