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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/01/stigmata-scars.html#comment-61356</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there
Thank you for posting. I feel a connection to you.  I really identified with
your story and pain.  I too,experienced the religious abuse through mormonism. Only to have parents use these beliefs to inflict additional abuse as well. 
You are very brave. Its taken me a lot longer to do some of the things you have done
Cutting ties can be hard. But healthy for sure.  I think I will be in Therapy for years.  Did you know, that the next pending DSM IV diagnosis is Religious abuse. It is going to be actually recognized.    Heres to another survivor.  Best to you and yours :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there<br />
Thank you for posting. I feel a connection to you.  I really identified with<br />
your story and pain.  I too,experienced the religious abuse through mormonism. Only to have parents use these beliefs to inflict additional abuse as well.<br />
You are very brave. Its taken me a lot longer to do some of the things you have done<br />
Cutting ties can be hard. But healthy for sure.  I think I will be in Therapy for years.  Did you know, that the next pending DSM IV diagnosis is Religious abuse. It is going to be actually recognized.    Heres to another survivor.  Best to you and yours :)</p>
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		<title>By: Marius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/01/stigmata-scars.html#comment-56014</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, thank you for putting this out in public.  

I will tell you that as a male in a paternalistic cult, I had it much easier than you did.  I could run away informally, as opposed to through the courts.  Reading your post and subsequent comments has moved me.  Too many similarities, including sibling schizophrenia. 

Your anger is well founded, and I understand it; I have some of the same defense skills.  It is difficult to explain to people who have not experienced it.

You are fortunate to have escaped, but you are truly noble for telling others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, thank you for putting this out in public.  </p>
<p>I will tell you that as a male in a paternalistic cult, I had it much easier than you did.  I could run away informally, as opposed to through the courts.  Reading your post and subsequent comments has moved me.  Too many similarities, including sibling schizophrenia. </p>
<p>Your anger is well founded, and I understand it; I have some of the same defense skills.  It is difficult to explain to people who have not experienced it.</p>
<p>You are fortunate to have escaped, but you are truly noble for telling others.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Braasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Braasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn,

Thank you so much for sharing your story.  You are a survivor.  

This is why I wrote this.  For you.  In your honor.

Keep on keeping on.  Do you still have that college paper?  Think about writing and publishing your story.

If enough of us tell our stories, they won&#039;t be able to deny the truth any longer.  They won&#039;t be able to blame us.  They won&#039;t be able to marginalize us.  They won&#039;t be able to pretend that we don&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for sharing your story.  You are a survivor.  </p>
<p>This is why I wrote this.  For you.  In your honor.</p>
<p>Keep on keeping on.  Do you still have that college paper?  Think about writing and publishing your story.</p>
<p>If enough of us tell our stories, they won't be able to deny the truth any longer.  They won't be able to blame us.  They won't be able to marginalize us.  They won't be able to pretend that we don't exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started reading this article I thought someone had found the paper I wrote for college and published it without my permission. I am a survivor of the rape by an  Assembly of God minister, who was also my step-father.  He told the judge that &quot;God told him to do it to punish me&quot; I can remember standing in the courtroom wondering what kind of God tells a man to rape a 17 yr old girl.  I have slowly gotten past it but it has taken 27 yrs to do it.  

I understand the lost feeling very well I left the church and joined the Navy and was sent to Italy.  It was quite a culture shock, but it helped the healing to begin because I was able to get as far away from him and my mother as possible.
 
Now I am free of the hate and lostness(know its not a word but can&#039;t explain any better) that I went through as a child.  Yes I still deal with depression and some bi-polar issues but am doing better.  I can only say thank you Sarah for writing what I couldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started reading this article I thought someone had found the paper I wrote for college and published it without my permission. I am a survivor of the rape by an  Assembly of God minister, who was also my step-father.  He told the judge that "God told him to do it to punish me" I can remember standing in the courtroom wondering what kind of God tells a man to rape a 17 yr old girl.  I have slowly gotten past it but it has taken 27 yrs to do it.  </p>
<p>I understand the lost feeling very well I left the church and joined the Navy and was sent to Italy.  It was quite a culture shock, but it helped the healing to begin because I was able to get as far away from him and my mother as possible.</p>
<p>Now I am free of the hate and lostness(know its not a word but can't explain any better) that I went through as a child.  Yes I still deal with depression and some bi-polar issues but am doing better.  I can only say thank you Sarah for writing what I couldn't.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Baerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Baerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just attended a talk by Nate Phelps, son of Fred -Westboro Baptist Church- Phelps. He is now an atheist &amp; now apparently quite mentally stable, despite the abuse of his childhood.
Once again I thank my parents for a faith free childhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just attended a talk by Nate Phelps, son of Fred -Westboro Baptist Church- Phelps. He is now an atheist &amp; now apparently quite mentally stable, despite the abuse of his childhood.<br />
Once again I thank my parents for a faith free childhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah-I for one applaud your courage.  Your family is a prime example of how evil religion can be.  You are brave to tell your story, just as those sexually abused by the Catholic church are brave to tell theirs.  The world could use more people like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah-I for one applaud your courage.  Your family is a prime example of how evil religion can be.  You are brave to tell your story, just as those sexually abused by the Catholic church are brave to tell theirs.  The world could use more people like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Braasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Braasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys.  You both said it better than I could have.  I&#039;m never quite sure if I should respond to nonsense like this or no.

The thing that always shocks me the most when people respond with their blaming the victim tactics is that we&#039;re talking about children here.

I mean, yes, I do describe the aftermath during my late teens and early twenties, but one does not immediately move past egregious trauma on your 18th birthday.

And, that&#039;s really my point.  We&#039;re sending untold numbers of severely damaged and wholly unprepared young people out into the world.  

And, that&#039;s only if they&#039;re strong enough to take personal responsibility for their lives and walk away from everything they&#039;ve ever known.

I know for a fact that I have taken personal responsibility for my life and for the repercussions of my actions in a way that my parents will never know.  

It&#039;s so much easier for them to remain in their fantasy land of make believe and no culpability and to demonize the escapees.  

My one brother killed himself to escape.  My other brother became a paranoid schizophrenic.  

I chose to recreate myself anew, to try to right the wrongs and to get as far away as possible.  If that&#039;s not taking personal responsibility for one&#039;s life, I&#039;m not sure what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys.  You both said it better than I could have.  I'm never quite sure if I should respond to nonsense like this or no.</p>
<p>The thing that always shocks me the most when people respond with their blaming the victim tactics is that we're talking about children here.</p>
<p>I mean, yes, I do describe the aftermath during my late teens and early twenties, but one does not immediately move past egregious trauma on your 18th birthday.</p>
<p>And, that's really my point.  We're sending untold numbers of severely damaged and wholly unprepared young people out into the world.  </p>
<p>And, that's only if they're strong enough to take personal responsibility for their lives and walk away from everything they've ever known.</p>
<p>I know for a fact that I have taken personal responsibility for my life and for the repercussions of my actions in a way that my parents will never know.  </p>
<p>It's so much easier for them to remain in their fantasy land of make believe and no culpability and to demonize the escapees.  </p>
<p>My one brother killed himself to escape.  My other brother became a paranoid schizophrenic.  </p>
<p>I chose to recreate myself anew, to try to right the wrongs and to get as far away as possible.  If that's not taking personal responsibility for one's life, I'm not sure what is.</p>
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		<title>By: Thumpalumpacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thumpalumpacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... it&#039;s always easier to blame others than to take personal responsiblity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The funny thing is, had Sarah stayed in her religion, she would have had a fine whipping-boy.  I cannot speak for Sarah, but only once I left my Southern Baptist dogma did I learn to truly accept responsibility for my actions.  I had no devil left to blame.  

If you credit God with the happiness in life, you must debit him the tragedy.  Anything else is a double-standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>... it's always easier to blame others than to take personal responsiblity.</p></blockquote>
<p>The funny thing is, had Sarah stayed in her religion, she would have had a fine whipping-boy.  I cannot speak for Sarah, but only once I left my Southern Baptist dogma did I learn to truly accept responsibility for my actions.  I had no devil left to blame.  </p>
<p>If you credit God with the happiness in life, you must debit him the tragedy.  Anything else is a double-standard.</p>
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		<title>By: themann1086</title>
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		<dc:creator>themann1086</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, fuck you jj.  While you&#039;re at it, let&#039;s blame those kids for being raped by priests.  Sure, the priests weren&#039;t perfect, but they taught those kids how to deal with real life!  Or something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, fuck you jj.  While you're at it, let's blame those kids for being raped by priests.  Sure, the priests weren't perfect, but they taught those kids how to deal with real life!  Or something...</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Braasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Braasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I learned the skills to live on my own and take care of myself, that must have been the work of my parents.

But, if I spiraled downward into mental illness, because I had been indoctrinated into believing in a fantasy world in which demonic attack is a constant threat, that must have been my own doing.

Hmmm.  See a pattern yet?  Probably not.  It&#039;s always easier to blame others than to take personal responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I learned the skills to live on my own and take care of myself, that must have been the work of my parents.</p>
<p>But, if I spiraled downward into mental illness, because I had been indoctrinated into believing in a fantasy world in which demonic attack is a constant threat, that must have been my own doing.</p>
<p>Hmmm.  See a pattern yet?  Probably not.  It's always easier to blame others than to take personal responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the religious abuse.  I see parents that may not have been great parents, but nevertheless skills to live on your own were taught somewhere.  More to the point, an awful lot of what you describe was well after you left, and done on your own.  You were so set is showing them you were right, until you realized they were not waiting or worrying about you.  You spiraled downward... because of them?  No, because you took yourself there mentally.  Then you put all the same stuff on your siblings, and others.  hmmmm see a pattern yet?  Probably not, it&#039;s always easier to blame others than to take personal responsiblity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't see the religious abuse.  I see parents that may not have been great parents, but nevertheless skills to live on your own were taught somewhere.  More to the point, an awful lot of what you describe was well after you left, and done on your own.  You were so set is showing them you were right, until you realized they were not waiting or worrying about you.  You spiraled downward... because of them?  No, because you took yourself there mentally.  Then you put all the same stuff on your siblings, and others.  hmmmm see a pattern yet?  Probably not, it's always easier to blame others than to take personal responsiblity.</p>
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