Comments on: Movie Review: Creation http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html NIGHTTIME IS FOR DREAMING. DAYLIGHT IS FOR ACTION. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:09:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Katie M http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-65287 Katie M Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:48:04 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-65287 I finally saw it today. Who would've thought that a movie about Charles Darwin could make you cry? I finally saw it today. Who would've thought that a movie about Charles Darwin could make you cry?

]]> By: Katie M http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54836 Katie M Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:10:03 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54836 Seems that the nearest city where this movie will be is Washington D.C., which I believe took at least four hours to get to when I went last summer. I think I'll just wait for the DVD :( Seems that the nearest city where this movie will be is Washington D.C., which I believe took at least four hours to get to when I went last summer. I think I'll just wait for the DVD :(

]]> By: goldifishlaser http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54831 goldifishlaser Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:49:44 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54831 Atlanta gets its own release on Feb 19th. Check the site to see if your nearby city is releasing late. http://creationthemovie.com/theaters/ Atlanta gets its own release on Feb 19th. Check the site to see if your nearby city is releasing late.

http://creationthemovie.com/theaters/

]]> By: Bo McDaniel http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54830 Bo McDaniel Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:24:07 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54830 I enjoyed the movie, thought it well done and revealing in the struggle between "Creation", it's highest form of creation - man, and the 300 pound gorilla (figuratively speaking) in the room, that being "... if creation, I must be created, if created who or what created me?" Or 'gods' forbid (little 'g'), that there may be a 'God'(capital 'G'). Personally, I can not scientifically discover by my own observations with the limited time I have on this earth and logic, much less my human abilities, whether or not evolution is true nor God is true. Unless, I become by default the 'god' of my universe, this does not matter to either reality, one being true the other necessarily false. And as the movie subtly depicts, if we evolve as the fortunate "Favored" races in the struggle for life (a reference to Darwin's complete title of Origins ... conspicuously omitted in any reference in the movie) then one is convicted deeply when they loose a loved one such as Darwin's daughter who by logical conclusion, must not have been "favored" to survive 'extinction' in the 'struggle for life'. To me, the poignant truth in this movie deals with the "favored" status of those we love, and hopefully we are loved by. Otherwise, in the 'struggle for life', love has no merit, no meaning, no restraint, no purpose, no life sustaining force. If, man is simply a higher evolved 'beast' vs. the other 'beasts', what affection’ I may have need not be true or 'favored' love, nor should that lack restrain me from fulfilling my affection for a fellow creature, even a lovable 'beast' that I could call my soul mate as portrayed by the lovely beast the orangutan depicted in the movie. I doubt the average viewer will appreciate the depth of the real questions at play in this movie, and thus, do not expect mass interest. But for those serious about true reality, I recommend this work to them. For all there are eternal options and consequences every creature must face. As a uniquely created creature living an ephemeral reality, it is my faith, my belief that I should choose wisely, trusting and hoping my choice is indeed "favored". I wonder what most 'omniscient ephemera’ are placing their eternal confidence in regarding this 'struggle for life'? . . . Because it matters eternally. I enjoyed the movie, thought it well done and revealing in the struggle between "Creation", it's highest form of creation - man, and the 300 pound gorilla (figuratively speaking) in the room, that being "... if creation, I must be created, if created who or what created me?" Or 'gods' forbid (little 'g'), that there may be a 'God'(capital 'G'). Personally, I can not scientifically discover by my own observations with the limited time I have on this earth and logic, much less my human abilities, whether or not evolution is true nor God is true. Unless, I become by default the 'god' of my universe, this does not matter to either reality, one being true the other necessarily false. And as the movie subtly depicts, if we evolve as the fortunate "Favored" races in the struggle for life (a reference to Darwin's complete title of Origins ... conspicuously omitted in any reference in the movie) then one is convicted deeply when they loose a loved one such as Darwin's daughter who by logical conclusion, must not have been "favored" to survive 'extinction' in the 'struggle for life'. To me, the poignant truth in this movie deals with the "favored" status of those we love, and hopefully we are loved by. Otherwise, in the 'struggle for life', love has no merit, no meaning, no restraint, no purpose, no life sustaining force. If, man is simply a higher evolved 'beast' vs. the other 'beasts', what affection’ I may have need not be true or 'favored' love, nor should that lack restrain me from fulfilling my affection for a fellow creature, even a lovable 'beast' that I could call my soul mate as portrayed by the lovely beast the orangutan depicted in the movie. I doubt the average viewer will appreciate the depth of the real questions at play in this movie, and thus, do not expect mass interest. But for those serious about true reality, I recommend this work to them. For all there are eternal options and consequences every creature must face. As a uniquely created creature living an ephemeral reality, it is my faith, my belief that I should choose wisely, trusting and hoping my choice is indeed "favored". I wonder what most 'omniscient ephemera’ are placing their eternal confidence in regarding this 'struggle for life'? . . . Because it matters eternally.

]]> By: Modusoperandi http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54729 Modusoperandi Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:56:17 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54729 I like how the Movieguide.org review, after dropping the typical "no transitional fossils" a Darwin quotemine, accuses the movie of using straw man, "closed-minded, cruel" Christians. Then it calls Darwin a racist (which is <i>technically</i> true <i>by modern standards</i>. Of course, by modern standards pretty much everyone back then was racist. It takes chutzpah to call an abolutionist racist. Chutzpah and a big helping of arguing in bad faith, that is). Then it calls his wife a not-True Christian. I like how the Movieguide.org review, after dropping the typical "no transitional fossils" a Darwin quotemine, accuses the movie of using straw man, "closed-minded, cruel" Christians. Then it calls Darwin a racist (which is technically true by modern standards. Of course, by modern standards pretty much everyone back then was racist. It takes chutzpah to call an abolutionist racist. Chutzpah and a big helping of arguing in bad faith, that is). Then it calls his wife a not-True Christian.

]]> By: Katie M http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54652 Katie M Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:23:43 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54652 So . . . not here? :( So . . . not here? :(

]]> By: lpetrich http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54649 lpetrich Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:42:11 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54649 I checked on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_(film)" rel="nofollow">Agora</a> (Wikipedia article), and it's supposed to be released country by country: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186830/releaseinfo" rel="nofollow">Agora (2009) - Release dates</a> It's released or to be released in Spain, Portugal, Lebanon, France, Romania, Greece, Kuwait, Slovenia, Russia, Singapore, Sweden, Germany, Israel, and Argentina. It was released October 9 last year in Spain. From Wikipedia, "Agora was Spain's highest grossing film of 2009, earning over $10.3 million within four days of its release on October 9. The film has grossed over $32.3 million (€ 21.4 million) at December 1." I checked on Agora (Wikipedia article), and it's supposed to be released country by country: Agora (2009) - Release dates It's released or to be released in Spain, Portugal, Lebanon, France, Romania, Greece, Kuwait, Slovenia, Russia, Singapore, Sweden, Germany, Israel, and Argentina.

It was released October 9 last year in Spain. From Wikipedia, "Agora was Spain's highest grossing film of 2009, earning over $10.3 million within four days of its release on October 9. The film has grossed over $32.3 million (€ 21.4 million) at December 1."

]]> By: Caiphen http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54648 Caiphen Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:34:59 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54648 The story of Darwin being a caring Father must send shudders through the Creationist ranks. After all, if you believe the fundamentalist BS, he was nothing but a 2nd rate scientist who was morally bankrupt.(eyeroll....followed by a sarcastic laugh). How dare Darwin display such an admirable character I'm sure they must contemplate. The story of Darwin being a caring Father must send shudders through the Creationist ranks. After all, if you believe the fundamentalist BS, he was nothing but a 2nd rate scientist who was morally bankrupt.(eyeroll....followed by a sarcastic laugh).

How dare Darwin display such an admirable character I'm sure they must contemplate.

]]> By: Katie M http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54642 Katie M Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:39:06 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54642 Just thought of this-Creation reminds me of the PBS special "Darwin's Darkest Hour", which I thought was excellent. Did anybody else here see that? Just thought of this-Creation reminds me of the PBS special "Darwin's Darkest Hour", which I thought was excellent. Did anybody else here see that?

]]> By: Jim Sabiston http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54641 Jim Sabiston Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:48:52 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54641 Thanks for posting the review! Sounds like an unusually sensitive depiction of Darwin's life and inner turmoil regarding the publication of his theories. I'd forgotten this movie was being made. I'll probably have to wait for the dvd, tho. Maybe one of the cable channels will broadcast it eventually (Discovery? BBC?)One can hope. I used your link to pop over to the movie review site. Just an amazing example of the depth and utter completeness of the closed mindedness of the reviewer. Particularly interesting that there is no option to comment on the review! Might they be afraid of open debate or discussion on their viewpoints? Very sad. Thanks for posting the review! Sounds like an unusually sensitive depiction of Darwin's life and inner turmoil regarding the publication of his theories. I'd forgotten this movie was being made. I'll probably have to wait for the dvd, tho. Maybe one of the cable channels will broadcast it eventually (Discovery? BBC?)One can hope.

I used your link to pop over to the movie review site. Just an amazing example of the depth and utter completeness of the closed mindedness of the reviewer. Particularly interesting that there is no option to comment on the review! Might they be afraid of open debate or discussion on their viewpoints? Very sad.

]]> By: Ebonmuse http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54640 Ebonmuse Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:00:09 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54640 <i>Creation</i> does have a fairly limited release, unfortunately - it was only showing at one theater in all of New York City, as well. This is probably what comes of being an indie film with a limited budget, as opposed to a glittery piece of garbage like <i>Expelled</i> that can get advertising and promotion from all the wealthy megachurches. I hadn't even heard of <i>Agora</i> till now, but oh man. I've got to see that when it opens around here. :) Creation does have a fairly limited release, unfortunately - it was only showing at one theater in all of New York City, as well. This is probably what comes of being an indie film with a limited budget, as opposed to a glittery piece of garbage like Expelled that can get advertising and promotion from all the wealthy megachurches.

I hadn't even heard of Agora till now, but oh man. I've got to see that when it opens around here. :)

]]> By: the chaplain http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/02/creation.html#comment-54639 the chaplain Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:50:53 +0000 http://www.daylightatheism.org/?p=1596#comment-54639 <b>OMFG!</b> I just checked for theaters where this movie is playing in the Washington, DC/Baltimore/Northern Virginia area. It's showing at one theater in downtown DC! One lousy theater! In a major metropolitan area with a population of 5.3 million people! That's outrageous, frustrating, depressing and just downright stupid. OMFG! I just checked for theaters where this movie is playing in the Washington, DC/Baltimore/Northern Virginia area. It's showing at one theater in downtown DC! One lousy theater! In a major metropolitan area with a population of 5.3 million people! That's outrageous, frustrating, depressing and just downright stupid.

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